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'Sleeper'


The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.

By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

***SPOILER ALERT***

  • **Spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows lie here. Read at your own risk***


SuziQ - Jul 30, 2007 6:11:57 am PDT #2013 of 3301
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Fred and George were never really that concerned with rules.

They are more like guidelines, anyway.


Trudy Booth - Jul 30, 2007 6:17:36 am PDT #2014 of 3301
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, if there is a passageway between the afterworld and Hogwarts Fred likely knows it.


sumi - Jul 30, 2007 6:22:46 am PDT #2015 of 3301
Art Crawl!!!

Plus they have that Twin Connection thing -- imagine how strong that must be for people with magic.


JenP - Jul 30, 2007 6:23:22 am PDT #2016 of 3301

Aimee -- I watched JKRowling on Dateline last night and I think that you should play her in the movie of her life. There is a resemblance.

Oh, my gosh, you're right! I was just looking at vw's Chicago photos, and I can totally see it.


Aims - Jul 30, 2007 6:26:01 am PDT #2017 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

blush


Aims - Jul 30, 2007 6:36:28 am PDT #2018 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Heh. I just did one of those celebrity who I look like thingies. Didn't get JKR, but got SMG and Katie Couric. Glenn Close and Selma Blair, too.

Wha-huh?


JenP - Jul 30, 2007 6:40:12 am PDT #2019 of 3301

I got Famke Janssen (sp?) once. Tchyah. I wish I looked like Famke Janssen... and had a root.


DebetEsse - Jul 30, 2007 7:27:26 am PDT #2020 of 3301
Woe to the fucking wicked.

C&P'd from my Word Document.

Response, after finishing the book, before I'd read anyone else's:

Ok, to start with, the epilogue was gratuitous if you’re over, like, 14. It was all very much as expected, and didn’t give many clues to the actual questions I have/had: Who’s headmaster? What’s Harry doing with himself? Etc etc. Additionally, wouldn’t Teddy have grown up as part of the family? After his own experiences, surely Harry would have wanted to take the boy in. And, well, it read a bit like fairly average fic. I was really close on what the last line of the series would be.

I could bitch for a while, but I did like it, on the whole. Actually, what I think I will do is go back to my list:

  • Harry needs to not die. No, really. I've got narrative-theory reasons why.

And Rowling, bless her, nailed it for me. Harry’s walk out of the castle to the forest made me cry. That and the end of 5, with the mirror and the talking to Nick, were the only two bits in the series that really did.

  • We need to hear from both Dumbledore and Sirius again, in some form. Because, really, could you get any more half-assed about dying, for either of them? It's a frigging phoenix

nods. Full points. Well, 3/4 points for Sirius, but I’m okay with that.

  • Graduation Day. From Buffy.

Oh, HELLS Yeah.

  • Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione, so that they're all family (and Harry finally, really has one). This can just be in the long-term, rather than immediate.

Which was what a lot of what the Epilogue was after, in a hella heavy-handed way

Also, because there’s no real elsewhere to put it, I called that one of the Weasley’s had to die, and it would be prefect, in the tragic way, if it was precisely one of the twins.

  • Remus happy. Because one of the Marauders should be

Killing Remus was just unnecessary. Enough with the parallels, let the poor man be happy. And poor Tonks.

  • House Elves, Centaurs, and Giants all being important. As do Durmstang and Beauxbatons.

Full points on Elves (although why Kreacher was not summoned at all after the leaving of Grimmauld Place, I do not know). Good grade on Giants. Barely passing on Centaurs. Also Durmstrang. And Beauxbatons, having been represented only by the Fleur clan, gets a D. Not quite a T.

  • Neville. I have no further coherent thoughts, but he needs to be important. Key, even.

So very key, with the snake and the sword.

  • Graduation Day. Harry should get at least a Hogwarts-equivalency whatever. So he can be an auror, if he so chooses. Because he's not going to die.

This, I missed getting NOTHING about this in the flash forward.

  • Ron needs to be awesome, in at least one moment

Hermione got more awesome than Ron, but I think he got his share, especially at the pond.

Loved the Willow/Oz in Graduation Day moment with the snogging.

  • Harry needs to save the Dursleys. (preferably, and then be all "whatever" about it)

Dudley’s reaction worked, although I thought he was imperiused, so maybe not quite.

  • Snape needs to be not-evil. Harry can't have been right from day 1, and Dumbledore wrong.

Yes, she gets points on this, but loses them on “he was in wuv with Lily”

  • Brothers. Albus's and Sirius's.

Ayup.

  • Percy. Just, some resolution.

I’ll take it. You know, rather than the epilogue we got, I’d have liked something, maybe a year later, and gotten to see the Weasley’s, in particular. The re-opening of Hogwarts would have been lovely.

  • Some final something with the founders. Not sure what. Might have something to do with Graduation Day. Or Godric's Hollow.

Yes! And we were all so very nearly right about Harry being Gryffindor’s descendant. Just, well, we didn’t know about the Hallows brothers.

Also, I’m thrilled as hell that she explained the Bloody Baron. I’d been wondering about him during this re-read.

After reading Daniel Radcliffe’s response off EW:

Dobby’s death was, in some ways, rather like Wash’s, which makes sense, as Hedwig’s was a lot like Book’s; it felt like, with Hedwig, she (continued...)


DebetEsse - Jul 30, 2007 7:27:29 am PDT #2021 of 3301
Woe to the fucking wicked.

( continues...) said, “Shit, I can’t have him lugging the owl everywhere. She’ll have to go.”

Oh, yeah, and I was soooo very right about the scar being a horcrux.

During Book Club catching up (aka my meara)

Someone really needs badly to write the continuing adventures of the DA (aka the Neville, Luna, and Ginny story)

And I really want to know what happened to Umbridge. Someone needs to write that fic.

The trace on Voldemort’s name was a nice touch.

I should have known that Remus was a goner when we found out the kid’s middle name was Remus. He didn’t seem the type to name a kid after himself. I actually, initially, thought she’d mistyped for Sirius. I do suppose, though, that Harry’s Harry James. Perhaps it was a Marauder thing.

I loved the adriftness than came with Harry’s broken wand.

I love that the Who people got it right that Expelliarmus saves the day.

I agree with everyone who was troubled by the use of the unforgivable curses by our heroes.


Aims - Jul 30, 2007 7:29:43 am PDT #2022 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Full points on Elves (although why Kreacher was not summoned at all after the leaving of Grimmauld Place, I do not know).

Because the Death Eaters had access to Grimmauld Place and could have possibly side-apparated with him. I don't think Harry wanted to risk calling him.