Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.

By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

***SPOILER ALERT***

  • **Spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows lie here. Read at your own risk***


Daisy Jane - Jul 14, 2004 12:29:54 pm PDT #174 of 3301
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Cool, call it


-t - Jul 14, 2004 12:42:09 pm PDT #175 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Okay, I'll post the full list in a few minutes.


Wolfram - Jul 14, 2004 1:10:24 pm PDT #176 of 3301
Visilurking

45? How are we ever going to whittle that down?


Daisy Jane - Jul 14, 2004 1:31:48 pm PDT #177 of 3301
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

perhaps -t could list the suggesters and that could be whittled?


Amy - Jul 14, 2004 1:35:38 pm PDT #178 of 3301
Because books.

perhaps -t could list the suggesters and that could be whittled?

Do you mean asking the suggesters to keep it to only, say, two recommendations? That makes sense to cut it initially. Or we could ask everyone to suggest only one book to start.


-t - Jul 14, 2004 1:43:11 pm PDT #179 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Suggested Books

NOTES (mostly stolen from Cindy):
1) Some entries are marked with a number. See bottom of post, for explanation.
2) I have used bold font, for titles and/or authors who seemed to garner either interest or support from at least one person, in addition to the person who floated the suggestion. If an author was mentioned more than once, his/her name was only put in bold in his/her first entry on the list.
3)Blurbs have been included when short enough, otherwise linked to

The Education of Henry Adams, by Henry Adams
Part autobiography, part cynical observation of politics and progress. An insightful and at times darkly humorous exploration of both a remarkable man and the tumultuous age in which he lived.
Ginger "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 2:28:05 pm PDT

Persuasion, by Jane Austen
Susan W. "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 10:05:27 pm PDT

Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Bronte

The Alienist, by Caleb Carr(1)
Kathy Astrom "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 9:27:39 pm PDT

House of Sleep, by Jonathan Coe
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 7:58:20 am PDT

The Devil's Larder, by Jim Crace
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 8:12:46 am PDT

Available Light, by Ellen Currie
A book so good I tracked down her scant short stories. A woman, a man with a saxophone. Romantic, Irish again. Finding your place in the world after mistakes. Beautifully written and affecting.

The Red Tent, by Anita Diamant
Topic!Cindy "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 2:00:55 pm PDT

Hard Times, by Charles Dickens
In our discussions in Literary, a number of people said they'd like to read Dickens, either because they never had or because they'd only read Great Expectations in high school, which is a good way to learn to loathe Dickens. (It's a great book, but perhaps not something to tackle in the 9th grade.) Hard Times is a relatively short work that explores Dickens' social concerns and the affects of an abusive system on both the abused and the people who profit from their work.

An American Tragedy, by Theodore Dreiser
Very long (my copy is about 875 pages), but a relatively fast read. Young man on the make gets job at factory owned by wealthy uncle, dates fellow employee with tragic results.

Louisiana Power and Light, by John Dufresne
Heather Alayne "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 1:50:24 pm PDT

Rides of the Midway, by Lee Durkee
Growing up Southern, teen boys, beautifully rendered. Also a ghost from a baseball mishap.

Jaran, by Kate Elliot
Susan W. "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 10:05:27 pm PDT

The Good Soldier, by Ford Madox Ford
Strega "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 11:49:45 pm PDT

Sandman, by Neil Gaiman(3)

Mister Sandman, by Barbara Gowdy
Lyra Jane "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 10:55:11 am PDT

Mariette in Ecstasy, by Ron Hansen
AmyLiz "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 1:48:59 pm PDT

Into the Forest, by Jean Hegland
Lilty Cash "The Buffista Book Club: Isn't the Point of Computers to Replace Books?" Jul 14, 2004 8:28:33 pm PDT

The Remains of the Day, by Kazuo Ishiguro
Polter-Cow "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 1:35:09 pm PDT

The Devil in the White City, by Erik Larson(1)
Kathy Astrom "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 9:27:39 pm PDT

Girl in Landscape, by Jonathan Lethem
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 8:12:46 am PDT

If Not Now, When?, by Primo Levi

Stranger Things Happen, by Kelly Link(2)
Kate P. "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 7:11:11 pm PDT

Small World, by David Lodge
Not only one of the funniest books I've ever read, but also (a) a neat structural parody of Medieval romances - so a history lesson tossed in, (b) a satire of academia and specifically deconstruction jargon. But don't worry - it's incredibly fun and absorbing, the kind of book you can't wait to pick up again.

Mary Reilly, by Valerie Martin(1)
AmyLiz "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 1:48:59 pm PDT

Birds of America, by Lorrie Moore(2)

Like Life, by Lorrie Moore(2)

Who Will Run the


Daisy Jane - Jul 14, 2004 1:44:26 pm PDT #180 of 3301
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Sure. I can't remember how many actual suggesters we had, but certainly less than 25?


DCJensen - Jul 14, 2004 1:49:02 pm PDT #181 of 3301
All is well that ends in pizza.

There's also the issue of availability of titles.

Won't do to assign a title that isn't universally available. Nor will it be useful to do so if it's only available in 'spensive editions.

I would suggest that for the first couple, go for classics or older books. The discussion of the list can go on and be honed while the first assignation is being read...


-t - Jul 14, 2004 1:54:19 pm PDT #182 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

(continued)
Pale Fire, by Vladimir Nabokov
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 1:25:16 pm PDT
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 1:25:16 pm PDT
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 1:25:16 pm PDT

The Enchanted Castle, by Edith Nesbit (4)

At Swim Two Birds, by Flann O'Brien
One of the great comic novels. Irish to the very very core. Told in parts as a scathingly hilarious account of a scholarly ne'er do well, and then leavened with big chunks of Irish lore, told beautifully and comically.

My Year of Meats, by Ruth Ozeki
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 7:58:20 am PDT

My Name is Asher Lev, by Chiam Potok

Vineland, by Thomas Pynchon
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 8:12:46 am PDT

Mating, by Norman Rush
http://www.buffistas.org/showthread.php?thread_id=112&post_id=104

The Sparrow, by Maria Doria Russell
http://www.buffistas.org/showthread.php?thread_id=112&post_id=112

…And Ladies of the Club, by Helen Hooven Santmyer
A big bestseller in the mid-'80s (and a bit of a cause celebre, because the author was also in her 80s -- at least -- and it was the first novel she'd published in over 50 years). A group of young women in a small town in Ohio in 1868 form a "women's club" to pursue intellectual endeavors. The novel follows the life of the town -- emphasizing the club members and their families -- from 1868 to 1932. Won't endorse the author's politics (economic laissez faire), but a fascinating study of a small Midwest town during a certain era.

Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, by David Simon
erikaj "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 8:18:36 pm PDT

Arcadia, by Tom Stoppard (5)

Valley of the Dolls, by Jacqueline Susann
Fred Pete "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 8:11:14 pm PDT

The Warden, by Anthony Trollope
Fred Pete "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 8:11:14 pm PDT

The Loved One, by Evelyn Waugh
Typo Boy "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 1:46:40 pm PDT

The Intuitionist, by Colson Whitehead
hayden "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 14, 2004 7:58:20 am PDT

Forever Amber, by Kathleen Winsor
Fred Pete "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 8:11:14 pm PDT

Dirt Music, by Tim Winton
billytea "The Buffista Book Club: [insert quotey thing here]" Jul 13, 2004 1:58:44 pm PDT


Suggested Pairs
Mary Reilly, by Valerie Martin; Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson
Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley; 1984, by George Orwell
Starship Troopers, by Robert A. Heinlein; The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman
Paradise Lost, by John Milton; Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley
The Alienist, by Caleb Carr; The Devil in the White City, by Erik Larson
Pudd'nhead Wilson by Mark Twain; To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Each book includes a mystery, an exploration of the effects of race and racism, and a courtroom drama. Together I think they could provoke an interesting discussion on the effects of racism and culture, plus they're both wonderful books. Pudd'nhead Wilson is Twain at his most savage and his most funny; To Kill a Mockingbird features one of the more engaging children in literature and one of the better portraits of quiet heroism.

____________________________________________________________
1 See also Pairings
2 Short Story Collections
3 Trade PaperBack
4 Children’s Literature
5 Play


-t - Jul 14, 2004 2:02:32 pm PDT #183 of 3301
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Folks who recommended books (I count 'em at 22:

AmyLiz
billytea
connie neil
DavidS
erikaj
Fred Pete
Ginger
hayden
Heather Alayne
JZ
Kate P.
Kathy Astrom
Lilty Cash
Lyra Jane
Michele T.
NovaChild
Polter-Cow
Strega
Susan W.
Topic!Cindy
Typo Boy
Vonnie K.


Formatting is so not going on my resumé