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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

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Kathy A - Jul 24, 2007 7:37:35 am PDT #1567 of 3301
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Hi, Margaret! Welcome to posting!

IIRC, Harry came upon Ginny, Tonks, and Mrs. Longbottom in the Room of Requirement after everyone else had scattered to begin the fight and he had to ask everyone to leave so he could change the room to the storage warehouse to find the diadem. Tonks left to find Remus, Mrs. L left to soldier up, and Ginny was ready to join them when Harry ordered her to return to the Room after he was done.


Sue - Jul 24, 2007 7:38:55 am PDT #1568 of 3301
hip deep in pie

The other thing I noticed when reading this book is that Harry is in his skivvies once, naked once, and the multiple Harrys are said to be having a disregard for his modesty. I bet Daniel Radcliffe read this thinking, "I better keep working out."


Aims - Jul 24, 2007 7:39:57 am PDT #1569 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I found it amusing that he was kind of freaked out about the other Harry's undressing and dressing without any regard for his body and thought to myself, "Hullo. Equus."


Margaret - Jul 24, 2007 7:52:15 am PDT #1570 of 3301

Ha! I noticed that too, and wondered whether "stripping" meant all the way. How could you show that in a kids' film?

Also, speaking of the books/movies connection, in this book in particular I found that quite often a line of Snape's or MacGonagall's read exactly as if Alan Rickman or Maggie Smith were saying it. Like, as if it were written for them as much as for the character. I don't get that impression while rereading any of the first bunch, but in six and seven it's definitely there. Has anyone else found that?

Kathy, that is awesome. I love how HP rewards looking at the tiny details.


Dana - Jul 24, 2007 7:53:51 am PDT #1571 of 3301
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I thought I remembered reading that she'd mentally cast at least Alan Rickman as Snape long before the movies. Apparently the age difference didn't bother her (and it is Alan Rickman, so who cares, really?).


Kathy A - Jul 24, 2007 7:55:54 am PDT #1572 of 3301
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

When she was writing the first book, she had already mentally cast Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2007 7:59:39 am PDT #1573 of 3301
Compassionately intolerant

I loved Mrs. Longbottom soldiering up. Spine-o-steel that one. And, while I was happy for Neville's bigdamnherodom, I was still a little sad that Mrs. L had been so hard on him. Then again, if my child had been tortured unto madness, I suppose I'd have been a bit flinty myself.

Hadn't thought of Fred as dominant, but I can see that point now.

I was sooo gratified, as a fan, with the tremendous job JK did with the wrapping up of things. Yes, there were plot holes and some bits of unfinished business, but I was amazed that every other page featured some form of callback.

Time to initiate a relisten to the first 6 audiobooks. Now that I know how things turn out, starting from the beginning will make everything so much more rich!

eta: Having listened to the books so much, I have a real problem (when reading) with competing voices in my head...Robbie Coltrane or Jim Dale? Alan Rickman or Jim Dale?

Jim Dale has become a personal hero, so he wins much of the time.


Aims - Jul 24, 2007 8:02:26 am PDT #1574 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My favorite callback begins in book 5.

Harry tells Petunia and Vernon that it was a Dementor attack. Vernon says, "What are dementors?". Petunia says, "They guard Azkaban, the wizard prison."

When Harry asks her how she knows that, Petunia says, "I heard HIM telling her! That horrible boy..." and you assume Petunia means James.

But no!

She meant Snape!!

LOVE. IT.


tommyrot - Jul 24, 2007 8:04:54 am PDT #1575 of 3301
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

She meant Snape!!

Huh. That is awesome!


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2007 8:05:49 am PDT #1576 of 3301
Compassionately intolerant

Exactly! It's those minor, seemingly either obvious, or trivial moments being brought back and resolved. Just KILLS me!

I'm pleased that they either got a new editor or JK grew out of her adverbial obsession...the writing style was so much more enjoyable for me this time. BUT, the sheer architectural genius of offering all those details and then tying them up...that's what really impresses me.

I wonder if all those details, woven into the structure were forward thinking, or if JK went back to the previous books to hunt up things to mention. Either way. Impressivo.