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The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

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Kat - Jul 23, 2007 1:20:03 am PDT #1470 of 3301
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I fell asleep last night trying to do a comparison of of the two Battles of Hogwarts. In both you have the side that is fighting against the institutional power using the Room of Requirement to invade. There is individual combat in the form of duels. Each ends with the death of the titular head of the group who is in power at the school.

Also, was Malfoy attending Hogwarts (I think not based on the capture/torture of Hermione and escape with Dobby's help part)? If not, how did he get there and get in in a timely manner?


Anne W. - Jul 23, 2007 1:36:24 am PDT #1471 of 3301
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I think that Hermione says at some point that she's never done a memory charm before, but this is after she said she's modified her parents' memories. Did I misread something there?

I don't think so. I noted this when I was reading through.

I thought the epilogue was cute, but I would have preferred one set a little closer in time to the Battle of Hogwarts. There was a lot of mess to clean up after that all went down, and I would have liked some acknowledgement of that. Going straight to a Happily Ever After with hints of The Next Generation was jarring to me.

Also, I wasn't bothered by Tonks's death as much as I was by the fact that she apparently had a personalityectomy.


Fay - Jul 23, 2007 2:22:49 am PDT #1472 of 3301
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Do you have one, by the way?

Not as snappy as yours. Er. 'Try really really hard not to shout' maybe? Or 'Assume that they didn't understand until they've proven otherwise. And then assume that 10% of them still didn't get it.'

(I had a whole big paragraph of more serious answer, and then decided that I was being boring and harshing the Potter mellow. But I could expand on it, if you like.)

Word on the fabness of Hermione, incidentally - they would all have been dead a gazillion times over without her. Competent, level-headed, organised, resourceful - Hermione rocked my socks. I don't really think Ron's good enough for her, but if he's who she wants then that's okay. He seems to be aware that he's phenomenally lucky, and does do some growing up in the book. (Have to say, I did laugh at the fact that he'd read that 'Witches are from Venus, Wizards are from Mars' book, and was putting it into practice with compliments and all that. Although what was he thinking, giving Harry a book on how to pull birds, and then freaking out when he snogged Ginny? Silly boy!)


le nubian - Jul 23, 2007 3:23:31 am PDT #1473 of 3301
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Literally, Hermione was the one character I absolutely positively did not want Rowling to kill. I would have been so unhappy if she had done so. I was very much relieved that she survived everything.

I cannot believe she isn't a professor at Hogwart's.


Theodosia - Jul 23, 2007 3:29:16 am PDT #1474 of 3301
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

She's probably Minister of Magic by now. Ron's famous because he's married to her....


Aims - Jul 23, 2007 3:44:44 am PDT #1475 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I would have liked a more narrative epilogue. Kind of like the ones they have at the end of movies?


Theodosia - Jul 23, 2007 3:45:46 am PDT #1476 of 3301
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Draco Malfoy: shot by own troops in Vietnam


victor infante - Jul 23, 2007 4:28:25 am PDT #1477 of 3301
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

wrt Molly's use of the word 'Bitch', I found that entirely in character. Keep in mind that the language we normally see from Molly is the language she uses in front of her kids, who all see her as 'Mum', and before whom she always plays that role.

Yes, yes, yes. Plus, a formidable woman by any account, pushed to the point of righteous fury? I can buy a well-earned swear word.

I think I felt most for Hedwig, dying rapped in his cage. That's no way for a flying creature to go. Still, it had me convinced she'd off any of them, at any time.


le nubian - Jul 23, 2007 5:11:09 am PDT #1478 of 3301
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

One Slate author's comment on the book:

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Juliebird - Jul 23, 2007 5:21:53 am PDT #1479 of 3301
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

One thing that frustrated me was Dumbledore's edict that only Harry, Ron and Hermione could know and set about on the quest for the Horcruxes. I kept forgetting that and wondering how could would it be if Harry, in his travels, began aquiring an army of wizards and creatures on the run from Voldy, the Deatheaters and the Snatchers. I understand the whole "heroes have to be isolated for the final journey" -- sorta, but then there's the whole "Harry survives because of the people around him, and not just Ron and Hermione" as well as trusting people where Voldy does not.