Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


The Buffista Book Club: the Harry Potter iteration  

This thread is a focused discussion group. Please see the first post below for the current topic and upcoming book discussions. While natter will inevitably happen, we encourage you to treat this like a virtual book club and try to keep your posts in that spirit.

By consensus, this thread is reopened specifically to discuss Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It will be closed again once that discussion has run its course.

***SPOILER ALERT***

  • **Spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows lie here. Read at your own risk***


DCJensen - Aug 10, 2005 5:32:56 am PDT #1134 of 3301
All is well that ends in pizza.

t does the dance of getting to read Nilly's HBP post first.

Good points, Nilly. I'll have to reread it when I';m not stuck at my desk worrying about my bosses walking by...


Beverly - Aug 10, 2005 5:58:48 am PDT #1135 of 3301
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Second!

I love the way your mind works, Nilly. A lot of your points I'd thought of myself, but you've given me some new ones, too.


Aims - Aug 10, 2005 7:09:20 am PDT #1136 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t stares at Nilly's post

You're just brilliant. So much I hadn't thought of before. So much to ponder over again.

So much in fact, that the only coherent thought my under-caffienated brain can make right now is "FREE STAN SHUNPIKE!"


Volans - Aug 11, 2005 4:05:33 am PDT #1137 of 3301
move out and draw fire

I finally got a second to threadsuck and read, but haven't yet read Nilly's post as I realized I'm going to have to think about it.

What I was going to say was this: Gandalf still fulfills the death-of-mentor trope because Frodo never knows Gandalf has been returned to Middle-Earth until after he, Frodo, completes his quest.

If DD comes back as Dumbledore the White, but rather than helping Harry deal directly with The Big V, goes off to rid the Centaur leader of the influence of Lucius Malfoy (and incidentally forcing Malfoy to lock himself in a tower with Peter Pettigrew, while the Forbidden Forest surrounds it), then collects Lupin, Hagrid, Hermione, and the Aurors and heads to the defense of London, while unifying the armies of Beauxbatons and Durmstrang to come help also....okay, then you've got a Gandalf Syndrome.

Oh, and based on Wolfram's links, I'm a Gryffindor. Which I was afraid of. Damn.


Fay - Aug 11, 2005 4:39:56 am PDT #1138 of 3301
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Wahey! Book VIII, in a nutshell. (But you forgot the House Elves.)


Lilty Cash - Aug 11, 2005 5:15:19 am PDT #1139 of 3301
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I was all kinds of happy to talk HP with Buffistas, but have realized that this is a conversation I can't dive into without some serious catching up, as anything I can think of to say has doubtless been thought of by someone brighter than me, written about, and already been debated and put to death.

Off to read! Will hopefully be back with coherent thoughts.


DCJensen - Aug 11, 2005 5:16:40 am PDT #1140 of 3301
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wahey! Book VIII, in a nutshell. (But you forgot the House Elves.)

Do they revolt? I know they are kind of revolting...


Volans - Aug 11, 2005 7:51:26 am PDT #1141 of 3301
move out and draw fire

From the Leaky Cauldron interview:

MA: Has Snape ever been loved by anyone?

JKR: Yes, he has, which in some ways makes him more culpable even than Voldemort, who never has.

Possibly taking it too much at face value to say that if she refers to Snape as "culpable" then he is in fact guilty. Of something.

I am also embarrassed to admit that I never clued in to the four houses representing the four elements (or even that Slytherin's common room was under the lake). Although I have been wondering if anybody's done a Harry Potter tarot deck.

JKR also said that she's sure some careful re-reader has already identified one of the remaining phylacteries Horcruxi.

Tying those two concepts together, the one that RAB got to before Harry and DD would be a "water" Horcrux. The diary...shrug... So can we think of earth, air, and fire Horcruxi? Or am I over-engineering?


Fred Pete - Aug 11, 2005 9:10:37 am PDT #1142 of 3301
Ann, that's a ferret.

Possibly taking it too much at face value to say that if she refers to Snape as "culpable" then he is in fact guilty. Of something.

Or she could have been talking about his Death Eater work during Voldemort's first uprising.


Amy - Aug 11, 2005 10:47:07 am PDT #1143 of 3301
Because books.

With HP talk slowing down (well, a little), is there any consensus on how we're going to pick the next book?

Signed,

Looking for yet another way to avoid the work I should be doing