I think he denied Snape the position knowing the Snape would prolly leave the school as the others have and wanted him at H'warts to keep an eye on him. I also think he gave it to him their 6th year knowing that he would probably not be able to teach the following year.
So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.
Angel ,'Conviction (1)'
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Aims - Aug 08, 2005 2:56:41 pm PDT #1017 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Aims - Aug 08, 2005 2:58:06 pm PDT #1018 of 3301
Shit's all sorts of different now.
But wait! Wasn't Quirrell there for at least a few years?
I smell a RetCon.
evil jimi - Aug 08, 2005 3:01:16 pm PDT #1019 of 3301
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
What he sees as "hate and revulsion" on Snape's face at the moment he's about to kill Dumbledore might actually be anguish and anger, that Dumbledore is making him do this horrible thing.
Nice.
I'm in the camp that thinks S and D planned what happened, as a way to firmly establish Snape's allegiance to Voldemort so he can go deep undercover. However, I'm not totally convinced that Dumbledore is dead. After all, we never actually "saw" his body after the attack, so we don't know who or what was under the robe Hagrid was carrying. Feigning death could spur others to finding hitherto hidden depths of strength or "goodness", while also giving Dumbledore the freedom to pursue the other Horcruxes and Voldemort without pursuit.
Then, of course, there is "R.A.B."; who is it and what else have they done against Voldemort?
Narrator - Aug 08, 2005 3:01:38 pm PDT #1020 of 3301
The evil is this way?
But wait! Wasn't Quirrell there for at least a few years?
The first book says he was at the school, but I'm not sure that it directly says he was teaching DADA. I just figured that Lord V lifted the curse for one of his own.
Narrator - Aug 08, 2005 3:05:23 pm PDT #1021 of 3301
The evil is this way?
R.A.B. -- Regulus Black, Sirius' brother. The story is that LV killed him or had him killed after Regulus tried to get out of the Death Eaters. So, it fits that he would "betray" LV by destroying one of the horcruxes.
victor infante - Aug 08, 2005 3:09:10 pm PDT #1022 of 3301
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
But wait! Wasn't Quirrell there for at least a few years?
I vaguely recall something about him only just have gotten the job, which was why Snape was freshly mad at him.
evil jimi - Aug 08, 2005 3:17:42 pm PDT #1023 of 3301
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
R.A.B. -- Regulus Black, Sirius' brother.
A nice theory and probably the one she'll go with but we'll see.
lori - Aug 08, 2005 3:18:47 pm PDT #1024 of 3301
Since there was so much mention of casting unspoken spells, what are the chances that Snape fired off one of those to negate the killing curse that he zapped Dumbledore with? Yet another way to work out a NotDeadYet!Dumbledore.
Connie Neil - Aug 08, 2005 3:19:33 pm PDT #1025 of 3301
brillig
Why would Grimmauld Place still be in Sirius' name? I would have thought the Ministry would seize it when he was sent to Azkaban.
Wolfram - Aug 08, 2005 3:25:03 pm PDT #1026 of 3301
Visilurking
I have a hard time believing DD is alive, although it is possible. For one thing, Hagrid carried the body. Hagrid can't keep a secret to save his life. But it's also really easy to fool him. Secondly, Harry unfroze at the moment of DD's "death". But DD could have just released the spell. And thirdly, the portrait appeared in the headmaster/mistress office. But that could also have been pre-arranged, although McGonagall would have probably been in on it.
And JK in her interview was very dodgy on the subject of DD and HP7. Very. Dodgy.
Okay, now I've switched camps, and he is alive. Or is he?