As Willow goes, so goes my nation.

Oz ,'Selfless'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Wolfram - Jun 23, 2005 6:06:09 am PDT #9952 of 10001
Visilurking

Fantastic episode. When Martin survived I said to my wife, "now Clarice has her Hannibal." And I meant it in a good way. I really hope we see him again.

And that wordless scene with Adam teaching the kid how to hold a gun? Priceless.


Tim Minear - Jun 23, 2005 6:30:57 am PDT #9953 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

We didn't drop at all from last week and we grew on the half hour. And no stars were dancing -- on our show, I mean. Stars were dancing elsewhere. Nevermind.


Kristen - Jun 23, 2005 6:33:44 am PDT #9954 of 10001

I think you need a serial killer who kills celebrities. You can have celebrity cameos and the network would pimp the shit out of it and your numbers would be through the roof.


PenDuffy - Jun 23, 2005 6:35:21 am PDT #9955 of 10001
I need a new tagline.. submissions are accepted.

killer who kills DANCING celebrities..


Wolfram - Jun 23, 2005 6:36:30 am PDT #9956 of 10001
Visilurking

How about a killer who makes the VCU team dance and sing?


Frankenbuddha - Jun 23, 2005 6:37:25 am PDT #9957 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think you need a serial killer who kills celebrities. You can have celebrity cameos and the network would pimp the shit out of it and your numbers would be through the roof.

They should model it on AMERICAN IDOL and have the public vote on which celebrities get killed.


joe boucher - Jun 23, 2005 6:38:46 am PDT #9958 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

killer who kills DANCING celebrities

DB cameo! The spaz dance rides again!


sumi - Jun 23, 2005 6:52:05 am PDT #9959 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, there was mention of the non-dancing dead in that poster.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 23, 2005 7:10:39 am PDT #9960 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

cat named Angel. Hee.

And it had been locked in a box for some time!

Plus I still have strong memories of when I first saw "I've Got You Under My Skin". Which is why I was glad Tim didn't go to that well again.

Looks like you might want to skip next week then, Frank.

I think you need a serial killer who kills celebrities. You can have celebrity cameos and the network would pimp the shit out of it and your numbers would be through the roof.

Have the killer BE a celebrity too, like Merv Griffin in The Man with Two Brains. It could be the J. Peterman guy!


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2005 7:38:58 am PDT #9961 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Huh. Why does she look so familiar?

She used to be a nun, Emily. Sort of.

Oh! Aha.

Wow. Ex-nun is knocking it out of the park.

Yeah, she was really good in that scene.

Nice comeback-look from the postal chief.

That was hilarious. Like, "WE'RE A FUCKING POST OFFICE."

So Tim, am I correct in my take that Rebecca's last line to Martin was not a sign of her deciding to do the right (or at least by the book) thing, but of coldly deciding that he deserved the option that would involve longer-term suffering and the poetic justice of being unable to punish his own urges the way he did others'?

I agree with that reading, especially since it reminded me (like it seems to remind Tim, as well) of the "You'll be stronger" line last week. I thought, "My, that Rebecca is vindictive, isn't she."

We didn't drop at all from last week and we grew on the half hour.

Hey, that's great news! Well, good news, at least.

First question: What song was playing when Marty broke into the VCU? That was a cool song.

I really liked this episode, both because of the fun concept and, as others have noted, the pacing and the fact that we got to know the killer up front. So it wasn't so much a whodunit as a whatsgonnahappen.

I think I expected some more discussion about the morality and ethics of what the pre-filer (which, while it sounded good the first time, started sounding siller the more they said it) was doing, but I also think that really came across in Rebecca's subtext. She seemed incredibly conflicted about whether what he was doing was truly wrong. It felt, to me, her gut was totally on his side, but her mind not so much.

As for Rebecca being captured all the time, it has happened a lot, but it seems to be when she's strongest. It's her element, almost. She gains a lot of power from being in that position, which is kind of fucked up, but that's what a Tim Minear show is all about, right?