You all gonna be here when I wake up?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Trudy Booth - Jun 22, 2005 5:57:00 pm PDT #9913 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm not going to tell you how to do it, Tim, I suspect you already know.


Jessica - Jun 22, 2005 5:57:02 pm PDT #9914 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

And I don't know how many episodes went out to critics pre-premiere, but I'm guessing either this wasn't one of them, or if it was, most of them didn't really watch it.

Huh. This was my least favorite episode so far.

I really hate to say it, but it is starting to feel repetitive to me. Rachel's line readings aren't doing the scripts any favors ("Victims? Yes. Innocent? No!" made both DH and I burst out laughing), and yes, I am getting bored with her constantly being kidnapped. The fact that every week she's had a different and equally valid reason to be captured doesn't change the visceral reaction of "Rebecca's captured, must be act two."

So...yeah.


HiddenSky - Jun 22, 2005 5:57:27 pm PDT #9915 of 10001
"There are two sorts of people in the world: those who believe Joss Whedon is a genius and those who are wrong." - Connie Ogle, Miami Herald

I thought he wanted to find a "real" profiler who would admire him and agree with what he was doing.

Rereading what I wrote, I made it sound like it was just a game where he held her against her will until she relented, but I agree that he was seeking validation from a real profiler in the process.


Allyson - Jun 22, 2005 6:06:13 pm PDT #9916 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

yes, I am getting bored with her constantly being kidnapped.

This one didn't bug because she willingly became a hostage to save Paul from getting capped. She's sort of like Brer Rabbit sometimes, "oh please don't throw me into the psycho killer patch!" And then she giggles maniacally, "I was BORN in the psycho killer patch!"


Tim Minear - Jun 22, 2005 6:10:30 pm PDT #9917 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Act four, actually, Jessica. Well, five, really, if you break the acts down the way the network is making me do nowadays with teaser, a piece of act one as act one, then acts two, three, four and five. Although last week she gets cuffed in act two. And the week before it was the last five minutes. And I agree, if I'd been paying better attention, I would not have run these three back to back. The reason I did? I had to have the Rebecca/Paul conversation that he knew her backstory laid to rest up front, or it would have played hell with continuity. I didn't see at all her foolish behavior in "Old Wounds" to be similar to Web setting her up in the pilot, though I do see why it would have a feel of sameness. I pulled up this one 'cause I thought it worked. What was going to be episode two -- where she doesn't end up in peril -- is what is going to air next week, but I was worried that if it ran 2nd it would give the wrong impression of the show. It's very blue sky and verges on "Bad Seed" "Desperate Housewives." I think. I've never seen "Desperate Housewives," but there ya go.


Tim Minear - Jun 22, 2005 6:15:25 pm PDT #9918 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

eh, nevermind.


Elais - Jun 22, 2005 6:23:01 pm PDT #9919 of 10001
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001

When they get involved with Roger's family, I kept waiting and waiting for the shoe to drop on what Roger's kink was. It seemed to take to long and it seemed too obvious that something was off with the family.

At first I thought the little girl looking for Angel the cat was a sign that the killer was after a different family and wanted to get rid of the girl first. I was was confused for a while until I saw the cat in the trunk.

I thought the phone call between Marty and Rebecca was a bit annoying, it seemed like a competition of who was the more insightful, intelligent one and that bugged me.

The final scene with Roger, Rebecca and Marty rocked big time. That was the first time I actually seemed to get what Rebecca felt.


thegrommit - Jun 22, 2005 6:28:09 pm PDT #9920 of 10001
Um.

I thought the phone call between Marty and Rebecca was a bit annoying, it seemed like a competition of who was the more insightful, intelligent one and that bugged me.

I think that was the point. He had already got into their office, and this was just a continuation of the battle.


Deena - Jun 22, 2005 6:31:04 pm PDT #9921 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

First of all, would the bad guy be likely to ring the bell? And second of all, would it really be the best course of action for all four of them to head for the door, rather than to spread out and guard more than one possible entrance?

This bugged me.

It also bugged me that they just walked in, no guns, when Roger called out that the door was open. I noticed that Rebecca started to pull her gun and Paul cautioned her against it, which fit with him stopping Rebecca as she questioned the wife (compassion/don't scare the "innocent", etc.), but it still bugged. I was expecting a killer behind the door. I can't believe FBI agents are less paranoid than I am.

Otherwise, I really liked this episode.


Elais - Jun 22, 2005 6:32:35 pm PDT #9922 of 10001
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001

I think that was the point. He had already got into their office, and this was just a continuation of the battle.

It seemed a little too smarmy for me. I thought the battle in the final scene worked much better.