Is it squickly?
I didn't find it squickly, but it is emotionally disturbing at times.
Home schooling? You know, it's not just for scary religious people anymore.
Buffy ,'Beneath You'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 8:47:13 am PDT #9524 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Kristen - Jun 17, 2005 8:48:56 am PDT #9525 of 10001
Did you know that Dude was into S&M? Rebecca did. If you knew, were you curious about it? Rebecca was.
But I still don't think that excuses it or, honestly, even mitigates it. If my hypothetical date likes skydiving and I say, "Oh that sounds cool. Tell me more." I doubt that would lead to the assumption that it's okay to toss me out of plane without my consent after creme brulee.
Pix - Jun 17, 2005 8:51:12 am PDT #9526 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
But I still don't think that excuses it or, honestly, even mitigates it. If my hypothetical date likes skydiving and I say, "Oh that sounds cool. Tell me more." I doubt that would lead to the assumption that it's okay to toss me out of plane without my consent after creme brulee.
Yes, this was what I was trying to say.
Plus, this:
Did you know that Dude was into S&M? Rebecca did. If you knew, were you curious about it? Rebecca was.is still our supposition, not an established truth...and more importantly, certainly not something discussed directly between the two of them.
Also, I say again, she was the FBI agent investigating a rape/murder!
§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 8:52:35 am PDT #9527 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was also the FBI agent who let him kiss her.
Kiba Rika - Jun 17, 2005 8:52:59 am PDT #9528 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
I'm thinking here. He had those cuffs for BDSM purposes, sure. But randomly cuffing ANY person, for any purpose - would that not just be assault? What I'm saying is, I know we can't overlook the sex here, but if a person were to say, "But there WAS no sex, so he's ok!" couldn't you say, "But there WAS assault, any way you look at it, so he's not."?
Also, I am interested in speculation on the fact that these were all powerful businesswomen that he played with. If I were going to read something unpleasant into the episode, I think that might be it - if I were looking for things - that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 8:54:14 am PDT #9529 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
not an established truth...
She *didn't* know he was into S&M? She *wasn't* curious?
Okay, I'll grant that maybe she wasn't curious, but by asking him about it, she was, at the very least, gave the appearance of being curious.
-t - Jun 17, 2005 8:54:33 am PDT #9530 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
I've seen the same implication about powerful men many many times.
Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 8:55:50 am PDT #9531 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
If I were going to read something unpleasant into the episode, I think that might be it - if I were looking for things - that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
Why do you think that's unpleasant? And that's a sincere question, not a challenge.
DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 8:56:05 am PDT #9532 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
Most professional female doms report that their clientele is largely high powered professional men. I don't think that's a stretch or sexist. I think the dynamic is that many subs are looking for an outlet to release control.
§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 8:56:29 am PDT #9533 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If I were going to read something unpleasant into the episode, I think that might be it - if I were looking for things - that there's some indication that women who are powerful outside the bedroom particularly enjoy the switch of feeling (though not being) powerless inside it.
You could also read that this arrogant prick enjoyed dominating successful women.