Buffy: Synchronized slaying. Faith: New Olympic category?

'Conversations with Dead People'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 7:51:46 am PDT #9477 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh, here is something that I'm confused about: did the cop do the initial killing that started the investigation that led to Brandt being a suspect in the first place?

I think yes.

So that he could follow up on Brandt's social life and rape and murder all of his dates?

I'm not sure how that follows.

Or are we to assume that the cop was stalking Brandt for his own reasons prior to the beginning of the first investigation?

He was after him for a (series of?) rapes. Did they establish whether he was or wasn't guilty of those, though? Now I'm getting a picture of the cop as Paul during the first investigation.


Kristen - Jun 17, 2005 7:52:20 am PDT #9478 of 10001

Brandt took BDSM seriously -- probably too seriously, which is what led him to chain up Rebecca and then freak.

No, see, I think what led him to chain up Rebecca and freak is that he's an arrogant boy who thinks he's smarter than he is. Which is completely separate from his involvement in BDSM.

ETA: And actually he and Rebecca have a lot in common. Maybe they can become drinking buddies in Ep 14.


-t - Jun 17, 2005 7:52:31 am PDT #9479 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

"what doesn't make you worse off makes you better off"

Something like. It's not quite as tautological as it sounds on first blush - you aren't left exactly the same. Which may be obvious, but isn't a tautology.

I have a thing about Nietzsche being misused but not enough scholarship to be really authoritative about it. But considering how broken he was, I doubt he meant that suffering universally leads to strength.


Emily - Jun 17, 2005 7:53:07 am PDT #9480 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

That's a good question, brenda. Somewhere in the back of my head I'm thinking that they said something about a series of rapes, but then they only ever talked about the one that was recanted. Anyone remember better, or do I have to find the tape?

Er, or go to work?


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:54:19 am PDT #9481 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is completely separate from his involvement in BDSM.

But if he weren't into BDSM, would he have chained her? He's definitely arrogant, no doubt. But part of his arrogance causes/is manifested¹ in an attitude that BDSM will cure anything that ails ya.

So his action was a result of his personality, and his interests intertwined.

¹: God, I type that manfisted three times.


Emily - Jun 17, 2005 7:54:35 am PDT #9482 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

No, see, I think what led him to chain up Rebecca and freak is that he's an arrogant boy who thinks he's smarter than he is.

I think he took himself too seriously, and taking the BDSM too seriously is a part of that. Doesn't make it a judgment on BDSM outside of Brandt. I think.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 7:55:33 am PDT #9483 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

to chain up Rebecca and freak

In the reenactment/flashback, was it actually established that Brandt freaked out? Or is that what Creepy Bossman assumed?

Or it could just be semantics. I call what Rebecca did "freaking out." And so when I think of Brandt freaking out, I can't picture him flipping out in the same way that she did.

I *can* picture him saying "Oh, holy FUCK, I thought you wanted this, crap sonofabitch crap crap crap," and letting her out of the cuffs. Which I wouldn't call freaking out as much as making a HUGE error in judgement (or, perhaps, a total LACK of judgement), and getting a rude awakening.

Again, it's not a big thing and could be semantics.


Cashmere - Jun 17, 2005 7:56:54 am PDT #9484 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

That's a good question, brenda. Somewhere in the back of my head I'm thinking that they said something about a series of rapes, but then they only ever talked about the one that was recanted. Anyone remember better, or do I have to find the tape?

I thought the ex accused him of rape, then recanted. Then the investigating officer became so determined to prove him guilty, he started following him and then got caught up in the fantasy and started committing the actual crimes (the rapes and then the murders? because they started out as rapes and then progressed to murders, right?) against the women who associated with Brandt--making him a natural suspect on all of them. Or am I confused, too?


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:57:04 am PDT #9485 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's semantics for me, Steph. It's what I'm calling freaking on his side.


Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 7:57:06 am PDT #9486 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

No, see, I think what led him to chain up Rebecca and freak is that he's an arrogant boy. Which is completely separate from his involvement in BDSM.

Well, having the chains there at all was related to his involvement in BDSM. But I completely agree with you otherwise.

He was after him for a (series of?) rapes. Did they establish whether he was or wasn't guilty of those, though?

All we know for sure is that the charges were dropped.