I don't see where there's any strength inherent in it.
I don't either. But if what he said was true, then the strength wouldn't necessarily be illusory. I'm just arguing about the if-then link, not the truth of the if.
You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.
Buffy ,'Lessons'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Emily - Jun 17, 2005 7:41:09 am PDT #9448 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 7:41:55 am PDT #9449 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
What was he doing wrong? He was a pompous romanticising blowhard, but I didn't see any indication that he was a crappy dom or anything.
We do have the fact that he was ousted from the club.
Vortex - Jun 17, 2005 7:42:04 am PDT #9450 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
A real dom doesn't make anyone do anything against their will. Putting Rebecca in handcuffs when she clearly didn't want to be there makes him a crappy dom., even if _he_ thought that she secretly wanted it.
-t - Jun 17, 2005 7:42:19 am PDT #9451 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
"what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is hogwash. There are lots and lots and LOTS of people on this earth who suffer, and their suffering is crippling, and they never recover. Some people recover, for wide variation in the definition of "recover," but plenty of people just don't.
I think, for the purposes of the aphorism, not recovering = being killed. Slowly, perhaps, but still.
For the purposes of The Inside, I don't know.
§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:43:16 am PDT #9452 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think we're supposed to think that Rebecca was being fair.
I wasn't talking about Rebecca's fairness, but Vortex's.
if what he said was true, then the strength wouldn't necessarily be illusory
If what he said was true, then the strength wouldn't be illusory. Because he certainly seemed to be stating it as a real benefit.
Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 7:43:16 am PDT #9453 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I didn't see any indication that he was a crappy dom or anything.
We don't know why he was banned from the club.
brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 7:44:05 am PDT #9454 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I think, for the purposes of the aphorism, not recovering = being killed. Slowly, perhaps, but still.
So, "what doesn't make you worse off makes you better off"?
sumi - Jun 17, 2005 7:44:40 am PDT #9455 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I'm enjoying reading the discussion here, although I'm not feeling the urge to jump in and contribute, except. . . Tim -- snow tires? In LA?
(I am also confused that Teppy confused Bale with Owen.)
Jessica - Jun 17, 2005 7:44:49 am PDT #9456 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Or "what doesn't kill you...doesn't kill you."
§ ita § - Jun 17, 2005 7:44:52 am PDT #9457 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
We don't know why he was banned from the club.
Exactly.
A real dom doesn't make anyone do anything against their will.
A perfect dom doesn't, no. I'm not saying I'd let him tie up my nearest and dearest, but I just don't get why he's supposed to have been playing (rather than, say, overreaching).