I'm going to see to Wesley, see if he's still whimpering.

Giles ,'Chosen'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 12, 2005 4:08:15 am PDT #8703 of 10001
What is even happening?

My main point that I have now completely left behind is that there is a difference between a misogynistic show and a misogynistic character, and I think that is an important distinction.]
Yes. And I'd add that there's a difference between a misogynistic show, and a misogynistic story, or even arc. In fact, I think it is possible to have a misogynistic premise (I don't think "The Inside" will) and not be a misogynistic show.

An awful lot of crime *is* misogynistic in nature, so for me, it wouldn't work to ignore that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 12, 2005 5:28:14 am PDT #8704 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

While I know that there's some overlap between the two terms, a lot of what gets discussed as misogyny strikes me as more correctly described as chauvinism. Despite "Billy," I don't think there was much misogyny on Angel, but the show and character were often guilty of chauvinism.


Kevin - Jun 12, 2005 5:56:47 am PDT #8705 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I rewatched the episode again today (3rd time lucky) and it is indeed Skyman, not Simon.

I kinda get a Darla/Angel vibe from Web/Becky (but not really in a sexual way. Although that would be funny).


Polter-Cow - Jun 12, 2005 6:45:30 am PDT #8706 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

For those who had trouble downloading the GF pilot: [link]


Kiba Rika - Jun 12, 2005 6:56:50 am PDT #8707 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

P-C, myself and my boyfriend's roommate thank you.


aurelia - Jun 12, 2005 6:57:42 am PDT #8708 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I shouldn't even attempt that with dialup, should I?


Polter-Cow - Jun 12, 2005 7:01:37 am PDT #8709 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's over 400 megs, so I say...no.


§ ita § - Jun 12, 2005 7:02:52 am PDT #8710 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's of course possible that if someone already had your address a copy could turn up in the mail.

I mean, if that were even vaguely ethical.


sumi - Jun 12, 2005 7:11:29 am PDT #8711 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I started downloading it -- apparently it's going to take 21 hours.

Sigh.


aurelia - Jun 12, 2005 7:17:31 am PDT #8712 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I mean, if that were even vaguely ethical.

Of course.