From Tim above...what's an "MSM"? Short Messaging Service inside out? I think not.

Maths is used every day in the UK - if you say to somebody they need to "do math" here you'd get very funny looks. Having said that, I get this show is US based at the moment, so I probably should fix it.

Actually, I think it's kinda charming. I just have math issues and believe that it is evil. So, the idea that there were multiple maths seemed really evil. And thereby totally in keeping with the spirit of a Tim show.

From Tim above...what's an "MSM credit." Short Messaging Service inside out? I think not.

MSM = Main Stream Media?

I think Web(b?) is the world's only reformed child molester

I was thinking the same thing, jengod!

I liked the episode but didn't love it. Someone else said it last night, but Rebecca could be any pretty blonde ingenue at this point. Adam and Katie didn't get enough screen time for me to suss them out yet, but I am looking forward to learning more about their characters. I liked Paul, but he has the potential for really getting on my nerves with his savior act. Web...ah, Web. I dig him. He's arrogant, manipulative, secretive and a complete asshole, but he's fun to watch.

The main reason I didn't love it was the overripe dialogue. It stood out badly to me and completely pulled me out of the universe. It could grow on me as I get used to it, but for now it rubs me the wrong way. I don't remember which line made me actually say outloud, "Oh dear god. Please." but it was there.

The main reason I didn't love it was the overripe dialogue.

I think the off-the-cuff, normal conversation dialogue was brilliant. It was the THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT lines that I found jarring.

From Tim above...what's an "MSM credit." Short Messaging Service inside out? I think not.

Math Science Math! waves flag Go team!

The main reason I didn't love it was the overripe dialogue. It stood out badly to me and completely pulled me out of the universe. It could grow on me as I get used to it, but for now it rubs me the wrong way. I don't remember which line made me actually say outloud, "Oh dear god. Please." but it was there.

Yeah. But...it seems Tim likes the overripe, so we may just have to get used to it.

I think the off-the-cuff, normal conversation dialogue was brilliant. It was the THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT lines that I found jarring.

Exactly. When it was good, it was very very good, and when it was bad, it was horrid.

I literally can't believe I've spelt Wolfram and Hart wrong. But I have. This is coming from the person with a self designed W&H Senior Partner shirt, and all.

Ahem.

I liked the show a lot as a whole, loved parts of it, and was a bit 'meh' on a couple of bits.

I liked this episode more than I liked 'The Train Job', but I felt that TTJ did a better job of giving me a handle on more of the main characters.

I'm definitely going to be watching (though possibly on tape delay) next week.

Just to defend my would-be attorney, she is acquainted with some Brits and was, I believe, taking the piss, and on the maths, which you know, makes me t heart her, even more.

Consuela, didn't the Raiders just get off again after a second trial?

Mistrial: hung jury (again). But I seem to recall hearing the DA isn't going for another trial, he's given up in disgust. I may be wrong on this.

Allyson, I know you didn't mean to snap. We're cool.

Lemme restate: I don't have a problem with Web doing what he did, because it was acknowledged as wrong within the text of the show, and shit like that happens. What I have a problem with is that if this is his standard pattern of behavior, and if this is our mundane world, then there has to be a really damned good reason for him to do that and get away with it consistently. It's a logic issue, more than an ethical one: having someone breach the procedural rules as a matter of course, and pay no penalty for it, either within or without the organization, makes my head go boom.

Sure, it happens: but isn't there always a review board for any suspect shooting? Aren't they going to ask what was said to the suspect? Aren't they going to quiz Rebecca, Paul, and Web on who was where, why they were there, how Web knew to be there, what order everything happened in? You shoot a suspect, they take away your gun and put you on a desk until they're pretty damned sure they understand all the whys and wherefores.

At the very least, Web's in for some unpleasant interviews, unless Ryan and Locke lie their asses off for him right off the bat. Even then, process demands it.

(And yeah, I had major major issues with Scully shooting Donnie Pfaster, too. The only suspect-shooting on network tv I ever thought was addressed properly was Luther Mahoney's. ::waves at erikaj::)

Anyway. I'll be watching next week, no fear.

A few years back, there was this creep in Orange County who abducted two teenage girls from a Lovers' Lane makeout session, hurt or killed their boyfriends (I can't recall), drove them out to a remote location and raped them both repeatedly. When the law caught up to him a firefight broke out, and he was shot and killed.

The sheriff in charge was reported to have said, "Well, that's one sumbitch we ain't gonna have to rehabilitate."

Cracks me up every time.

Anyway, that's what I imagine Web's thought process to be--no point in wasting any more time on you, jackoff.