Web made me laugh, but he didn't make me like him. Which is what happened when Mal shot that guy in The Train Job.

Yup. Web is supposed to represent the law. Instead, he murdered a suspect. There's no excuse for that. If he resists, then you can shoot him. Rebecca ought to turn him in to Internal Affairs, or whatever the FBI equivalent is.

I loved it. Totally hooked.

What I found really interesting about the final scene, after the "Damn I did that backward" bit (Webb is evil, in a way that should make for interesting watching), was the glimpse into the relationship between Web and uhhhhhh conscience guy (Paul?). Webb tells him 'take care of it' and Conscience guy says something like "I'm on it" - and the look on his face was...interesting.

It's just - he's conscience guy, but he's also "clean-up" guy. I'm thinking that'll be an interesting tension as well.

eta: I need to find more words for 'interesting'.

Web made me laugh, but he didn't make me like him. Which is what happened when Mal shot that guy in The Train Job.

So far, the fact that I never liked Firefly is serving me well, it seems. I'm not seeing any of Mal in Web or Jayne in Danny, and that's just the way I like it.

Web is supposed to represent the law.

Supposed to, yeah. But apparently he has the semi-autonomy to pick and drop cases at will. I wonder if he has actual legal immunity in some way. Whether he just thinks he's above the law or whether he actually is above the law in some ways is a point to be explored.

OMG, they really don't work the FBI, it's SD-7, isn't it TIM?

I buy that she could skin one of her own hands, but the idea of then using the skinless hand to do the other and half of her face is hard to swallow.

I thought only one hand was skinned--that's what tipped Rebecca off--that the victim was left handed and her left hand was untouched.

Reading about cutters, I didn't have to suspend too much belief--folks do some crazy ass shit to themselves involving cutting, pain and blood. Yuck.

Hey, that was one of my favorite parts too.

Me, too. I wasn't expecting it and when I heard it, I yelped.

I thought only one hand was skinned--that's what tipped Rebecca off--that the victim was left handed and her left hand was untouched.

Ah! You're so right. Nevermind.

The thing for me is that different show worlds have different rules for how things work. There are things that get serious consequences in some worlds which in others are hand-waved away (I'm thinking here about Harry Potter and the extreme negligence and emotional abuse which seems to have no real effect on the emotional health of the school-age Harry -- I know it's a fantasy world, but the same general principle applies). I don't yet know enough about the Inside world to know what those rules are, and until I do I'm not going to take a stand on what Web "should" be able to do with impunity.

Which is why my response was, "Line funny" and left the fact that Web broke all kinds of legal and ethical guidelines for a later date.

That sounds preachy -- I'm not telling anybody else what their response should be, I'm just explaining why I watched him do a Very Bad Thing and chuckled at his quip.

Holy shit, that was good television. Too good. That first episode alone could have easily been one of those Ashley Judd movie theater films, but with better dialogue and plot twists.

Two things bugged me. First, why does lascivious landlord completely miss the broken flowerpot when he, supposedly, discovered she'd packed up her stuff and left? And if he saw it, why wouldn't he throw it out? Did he already suspect foul play?

And second, during that whole Rebecca/Webb scene in the apartment, what's with the sitting around in the dark? We get that the content of the scene was dark, but it felt like they played it in the dark just for the gratuitious symbolism.

But to conclude, it sucks that regurgitated formulaic crap like L&O not only thrive but spawn on network tv, and fantastic original shows like this...well here's hoping.

P.S. Tim, if this one gets cancelled you need to talk to HBO or FX.

First, why does lascivious landlord completely miss the broken flowerpot when he, supposedly, discovered she'd packed up her stuff and left? And if he saw it, why wouldn't he throw it out? Did he already suspect foul play?

I was actually a little confused by the timeline. Didn't he see her (hell, talk to her when she came back with the flowerpot)? Why was he all, "Maybe she came back"? Yes, she came back! You saw her come back! Was that scene with the killer supposed to have taken place a while ago?