doesn't all this hand wringing by the MSM critics about the gore seem a bit overwrought?

Er, yeah. I mean, the teaser did make me jump a bit, but more jump than ew -- which is to say, when I realized what I was looking at I thought it was going to be gory, but then that was all there was.

CSI has grossed me out more, but that's not saying much, as CSI has grossed me out a lot.

I must now stop posting and decide whether to watch Red Dwarf or review exponential functions.

Ask me again if you have scenes where people are poking needles into eyes or something.

As someone who has had needles poked in her eye, it looks worse than it feels.

hand wringing by the MSM critics about the gore seem a bit overwrought?

Really overwrought. I have to say - CSI makes me avert my eyes all the time, and some of that is even sort of clinical gore, if that makes sense. This was, yeah, not pretty at points, but a lot less hard to watch than I'd been expecting.

Actually, the hardest thing for me to watch was the terrified girl on the video feed. Which, of course it's hard to watch.

Matt, don't blame Adam and Katie, for the first few eps I felt it was key to hammer home the central relationship of the show, which is a triangle. So Adam and Katie twist a little bit.

I have every confidence that Katie will wow me as her character gets more to do. Adam may be more problematic, as the counter-productively argumentative schtick really works my last nerve if it's not paired with more enjoyable character traits that earn it for me. (A similar broken record arguing-for-its-own-sake vibe even put a dent in my affection for Angel last year, and he had most of a decade as one of my all-time favorites to draw on.) But even if AB doesn't turn my initial negative reaction around, it's just one character out of five. Most shows have more than a 20% share of characters that I don't care for.

Oh, by the way, the plot was stellar.

Amy -- I had a really strong negative reaction to Web right off the bat and nothing in the episode could change that. I might have been won over by the Got it Backwards line, if I hadn't already been creeped out by the "she does what I want" line.

I had a similiar reaction to Locke on Lost, I hate him and not in the enjoyable love to hate him way but in the grating get offa my screen way.

However, this is one episode and my feelings about Web may change.

by the way, east coasters -- now that you've seen it, doesn't all this hand wringing by the MSM critics about the gore seem a bit overwrought?

Definitely. But I loved Se7en, so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask.

But the BEST thing about the show? Is Web. What a sick, ruthless bastard and I *adore* Peter Coyote in the role.

Exactly! But I like what Tim said above about it being a triangle, between Paul and Web and Rebecca. Very interesting idea.

Heck, there's times I have to turn away during the operations on Nip/Tuck, that's how much I hate gore. This was not gory.

and fuck up ALL THE TIME

Music to my ears!

Seriously. Not loving her acting so far, but characters who routinely overreach their limits and fuck up? MY FAVORITE.

The AtS-like pacing of the blipvert followed by the quick pan up to the hotelapartment building sent chills through me. It's been so long since I've seen that style on anything new, and man, I didn't realize how much I still missed it.

At this point, I wonder that Paul would want to be on the same team after she pointed her weapon at him.

I think Paul takes his "conscience" duties very seriously. Too seriously, probably, and I think he's going to get hurt.

I laughed out loud at "Damn. I got that backward."

That was a great line.

So far, I'm loving it. Rebecca's acting was the only thing that felt out of place, but I think a lot of that is just how much her mannerisms resemble Michelle Trachtenberg, which was distracting. I'm sure eventually I'll be able to see Rebecca and not Dawn.

Whoah! Just went to IMDB to look up who Jay Harrington reminds me of (Enrique Murciano, apparently), and The Inside's on the main page!

Actually the grossest thing I've seen on tv was on the Discovery Health channel -- one of those emergency room things where they are showing you real live stuff. It's real and 100% worse than anythign that's faked on tv.