You know, I've saved lives. Dozens. Maybe hundreds. I reattached a girl's leg. Her whole leg. She named her hamster after me. I got a hamster. He drops a box of money, he gets a town.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2005 1:35:13 pm PDT #7889 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Or rather, I don't know I could survive the caustic commentary on commercial. Oy. Maybe to tape.

Maybe if there's a Burger King commercial they'll be traumatized into silence, and you'll have worried for nothing.


sarameg - Jun 06, 2005 1:37:56 pm PDT #7890 of 10001

they'll be traumatized into silence, and you'll hve worried for nothing.

I don't think anything could traumatize my father into silence.... BKman might make him explode, though. msbelle, I'll try to tape it, but I would so appreciate the backup in case tomorrow is crazy and I forget.


Kevin - Jun 06, 2005 1:40:29 pm PDT #7891 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Putting stronger, or more 'in tone' episodes first, in my opinion is a good thing(tm). And I'm not just saying that as a Fanboy(tm) thing, I really do feel that (and in some respects I actually liked the original running order of Firefly in places for this reason - although obviously, pilot last - issues).

I shall do a body count for the site. I was thinking about asking Tim for an interview for TI.org to go out Wednesday midday, as it'd get copied across all the Buffy/Angel/Firefly etc websites (you can viral market online using fandom bases quite well) -- but I don't want to disturb you, Tim.


Kristen - Jun 06, 2005 1:45:54 pm PDT #7892 of 10001

It's interesting, and maybe after things air we can discuss,

Yes. It's very hard to have this discussion without spoilers.

but the three I picked to go first were not at all the first three written or produced.

I like the order you ended up with. But, by reshuffling, the season starts off a little peril-heavy. Though you could write that off as some new agent/overeager to prove herself kind of thing.


Betsy HP - Jun 06, 2005 1:54:14 pm PDT #7893 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I think my aversion to female victimization is part of the reason I fell in love with BtVS

This is absolutely why I fell for Farscape. How nice it was to see a woman who was unselfconsciously strong, to whom it never even occurred that she ought to be otherwise.


Allyson - Jun 06, 2005 1:58:05 pm PDT #7894 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I was thinking about asking Tim for an interview for TI.org to go out Wednesday midday, as it'd get copied across all the Buffy/Angel/Firefly etc websites (you can viral market online using fandom bases quite well) -- but I don't want to disturb you, Tim.

in a perfect fighting stance, chin down, tiny fists rolled at my chin

He owes me a big interview for TimMinear.net. YOU CANT HAVE HIM. HE'S MINE. MINE!!!

Though you could write that off as some new agent/overeager to prove herself kind of thing.

This makes an incredible amount of sense to me. I also think Becky's tendency to put herself in peril has more to do with her difficulty forming close bonds with people after the abuse. It's difficult for her to trust, to rely on her partner, and the team, so she makes the mistake of going out on her own. She has a small touch of the invincible delusion because she escaped something so terrible all on her own, as well.

This is the first 13 episodes of what I think could be five seasons. I expect her to grow and heal a little over time and learn that it's not a sign of weakness to rely on her partners to get her back. It's the nature of their work.

She's a rookie, she'll fall on her ass. What's intriguing is she keeps getting back up and charging at the enemy.

Little Girl Lost, I think, is the most interesting episode dealing with Becky's strength, and where it came from.

You're right, Kristen. It's hard to talk about this without spoiling.


msbelle - Jun 06, 2005 2:01:35 pm PDT #7895 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Do they call her Becky?!?! Please no.


Allyson - Jun 06, 2005 2:03:17 pm PDT #7896 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Do they call her Becky?!?! Please no.

No. Not anymore. But we can discuss why I like calling her Becky on Wednesday night.


msbelle - Jun 06, 2005 2:05:07 pm PDT #7897 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

FINE.

Until then, I will think it is because "you made it very clear you were not a Becky".


Kristen - Jun 06, 2005 2:05:15 pm PDT #7898 of 10001

I also think Becky's tendency to put herself in peril has more to do with her difficulty forming close bonds with people after the abuse. It's difficult for her to trust, to rely on her partner, and the team, so she makes the mistake of going out on her own. She has a small touch of the invincible delusion because she escaped something so terrible all on her own, as well.

Yes, exactly.

Little Girl Lost, I think, is the most interesting episode dealing with Becky's strength, and where it came from.

We're going to have to wait a long time before we can discuss that one. Which is sad.

Do they call her Becky?!?! Please no.

HA. Polgara said the same thing to me. And no, they don't. But Allyson does and she's infected me.