Vernor Vinge, the late Anderson, Larry Niven all hard science fiction writers who also do good charterizations and society. Many others too. But Anderson was at least much a fantasy writer as an SF writer. And the others were of a later generations who learned you could not get away with making your (non-sentient) rocket the main character. Of his generation, I think Heinlein was the only "hard" SF writer who did a decent job of characterization, universe building and society building. I should have said "of his generation" and hereby do.
Angel: Eve. So, I guess we should, I don't know, talk? Eve: About what? Angel: About what happened back there with us. Eve: Angel, it's not like this is the first time I've had sex under a mystical influence. I went to U.C. Santa Cruz.
'Life of the Party'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Typo Boy - Jun 24, 2004 3:46:02 pm PDT #757 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Allyson - Jun 24, 2004 3:46:15 pm PDT #758 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
The core is liquid, and there is ice....but water as we know it? And drinkable? We'll give Ed a big glass and if he lives, we'll all go live on the moon.
DXMachina - Jun 24, 2004 3:52:06 pm PDT #759 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Allyson, ice is water. All you have to do is melt it.
sumi - Jun 24, 2004 3:56:04 pm PDT #760 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Well, not all water is potable.
DXMachina - Jun 24, 2004 3:56:56 pm PDT #761 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
What, they can't bring a Brita with them?
Allyson - Jun 24, 2004 3:58:02 pm PDT #762 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I deny your claim. It's liquid, and it's frozen, but is it water?
Allyson - Jun 24, 2004 4:02:37 pm PDT #763 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
When Pluto rolls in closer to the sun, the snow on the surface melts and creates a thin atmosphere. When it rolls out, the atmosphere freezes and it snows and becomes ice. But since the liquid is methane, it's a no go on drinking.
The only good thing about my job is that I know it snows methane on Pluto.
DXMachina - Jun 24, 2004 4:07:23 pm PDT #764 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
It's liquid, and it's frozen, but is it water?
Ice is water. Frozen methane is called frozen methane, not ice.
Allyson - Jun 24, 2004 4:18:56 pm PDT #765 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
AHA! I have asked a scientist, and the consensus is that the ice on the moon can be filtered, unless there are little bugs that live in it that will suck out your eyeballs, which is my theory, and I'm told is as good as any.
Allyson - Jun 24, 2004 4:20:59 pm PDT #766 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Nah, people around here call anything frozen "ice."
I mean, if you put it on a stick, frozen methane would still be a methanesickle.