River: I didn't think you'd come for me. Simon: Well, you're a dummy.

'Serenity'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gus - May 24, 2005 8:07:43 pm PDT #7339 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Is this going to become a thing about capital punishment? 'Cuz I'm down for an argument. The gobernment has no more right to kill anyone than I do.

However, if someone is trying to kill my son (for instance) I'm putting lead directly into his forehead. I don't know if that is a Right that is correct, but there it is.


Betsy HP - May 24, 2005 8:09:48 pm PDT #7340 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Old Betsy.

I object in the strongest terms.

Why not "Old Minear"?


Kristen - May 24, 2005 8:11:00 pm PDT #7341 of 10001

You'll have to ask the State of Indiana.


DavidS - May 24, 2005 8:12:54 pm PDT #7342 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The gobernment has no more right to kill anyone than I do.

However, if someone is trying to kill my son (for instance) I'm putting lead directly into his forehead. I don't know if that is a Right that is correct, but there it is.

I suppose the gobernment's argument is that all of its citizens fall under the same purview that your son does to you, hence the killification.

Paterfamilial Gubmint:Citizens as Vengeful!Gus:TragicallyMurderedSon

But I don't think there's a Right to Kill, or a Right to Live or a Right to Die. I think nature takes care of mortality well enough without much attention to Rights or Wrongs.


Betsy HP - May 24, 2005 8:15:59 pm PDT #7343 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The State of Indiana and I are not on speaking terms.

People did name guillotines and executioners' swords.


§ ita § - May 24, 2005 8:17:27 pm PDT #7344 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

People name their genitalia.

People can be strange.


Betsy HP - May 24, 2005 8:19:32 pm PDT #7345 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The named genitalia freak me more than the named executioners' swords. Thanks, ita.


aurelia - May 24, 2005 8:22:39 pm PDT #7346 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Now I'm wondering if Mrs. Bobbit named her knife.


Gus - May 24, 2005 8:25:12 pm PDT #7347 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

OK, let us leave goberment out it. It will be a while before we can convince it that it is not our parent, but our servant.

I think nature takes care of mortality well enough without much attention to Rights or Wrongs.

It does. We are all in the same burning house.

I was not talking, so much, about vengence as about prevention. The state's case is that no one who has been executed has ever committed a murder after the execution, so its killification is justified, behind the prevention angle.


Betsy HP - May 24, 2005 8:27:00 pm PDT #7348 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

. The state's case is that no one who has been executed has ever committed a murder after the execution, so its killification is justified, behind the prevention angle.

And nobody who has ever been executed has been released from prison after being exonerated, either. However, people have been posthumously exonerated now and again.

The argument that most convinces me about the death penalty is that it is far more terrible to kill somebody who is innocent than to lock an innocent man up for life.