Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


libkitty - Jun 23, 2004 1:00:31 pm PDT #713 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I can't help with the quote, but consider yourself hugged.

((jengod))

I hope everything is ok or gets better.


Dana - Jun 23, 2004 1:07:15 pm PDT #714 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

This, Jen?

Tim Minear: Can anyone else tell I don't have any scripts due and that I'm waiting for notes on my "Moon" outline?

Laura: Do you recall what that being able to breathe thing felt like?

Tim Minear: What are you talking about? I'm waiting for notes. I'm not breathing, I'm growing a tumor.


Polter-Cow - Jun 23, 2004 1:32:22 pm PDT #715 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

{{{jengod}}}


Consuela - Jun 23, 2004 1:35:06 pm PDT #716 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

t hugs jengod

Betsy, are you well-read in Andre Norton? Could you recommend a few titles?

Well, I'm not Betsy, but I'm a huge Norton fan. here is a bibliography sorted by series. In general the stuff written before 1985 is preferable.

I think the Solar Queen series, despite having absolutely no female characters to speak of, is quite good adventurous SF. Includes Sargasso in Space, Plague Ship, and Postmarked the Stars. Multi-ethnic characters (about which she doesn't make a very big deal) running a freelance trading/shipping business in competition with The Big Corporate Shipping Lines. Interesting plots, lots of action.

She has a series of time travel books, starting with Time Traders, I believe, which are based on the premise that a secret government agency is fighting a war against alien time-travelers. So there's lots of going back and forward in time to defeat the aliens. The historical/archaeological research is fairly sound, IIRC. And then they find an alien space ship and start visiting other planets.

The classic Norton novel involves a young person who finds themselves an outcast in their society, because of heritage, physical deformity, odd talents, or some such thing. They will either choose an adventure or find one forced upon them, and in the course of the story will discover both talents they didn't know they had, or know to appreciate, and a family or people who value them for the very reasons they were ill-fitted for their past lives. Often there's a romance, but not always.

Her fantasies also fit this mold, the most famous series being the Witch World series, which is a loosely linked (very loosely in some cases) series of novels and stories set on another world that was once inhabited by beings of great power. The power ran amuck, a lot of damage was done, and now the more ordinary humans are trying to survive amongst the remnants. It's sort of like living in a psychic minefield: you never know when the temple in the back 40 is going to burp and start emitting demon-dogs to eat your sheep.

My favorite of the Witch World novels is Year of the Unicorn, primarily because it's a retelling of Beauty and the Beast. Although I'm very fond of The Crystal Gryphon as well.

Norton also wrote an assortment of historical novels, covering eras all the way from prehistoric Egypt to the American Civil War.


jengod - Jun 23, 2004 3:46:33 pm PDT #717 of 10001

bless you all

seriously

you're wonderful people

:)


smushedfacelion - Jun 23, 2004 3:54:01 pm PDT #718 of 10001
Just low blood sugar. Ate a Snickers. Thanks for coming.

Second season starts July 25, I believe.

Ooh! I may actually have to get cable again. I bought the "Dead Like Me" DVD's without having seen any episodes. Remembered seeing them mentioned on here, they got a good review in EW, and I was so impressed with Wonderfalls that I felt it was worth checking out Bryan's other series.

Too bad Showtime didn't pick up Wonderfalls instead of Fox. I bet we'd be looking forward to the second season of it too.


sfmarty - Jun 23, 2004 6:22:58 pm PDT #719 of 10001
Who? moi??

Andre Norton is in terrible health and is selling High Hallack.


Beverly - Jun 23, 2004 7:31:39 pm PDT #720 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My favorite of the Witch World novels is Year of the Unicorn, primarily because it's a retelling of Beauty and the Beast. Although I'm very fond of The Crystal Gryphon as well.

And The Jargoon Pard.

Nodding to everything in 'suela's post.

Marta, I love your tagline. What am I saying, I live your tagline. Now, what do you mean, selling High Hallack? I had no idea Norton could still be living. I thought someone had bought the rights from her estate and was publishing under her name.


Consuela - Jun 23, 2004 8:51:35 pm PDT #721 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Andre Norton is in terrible health and is selling High Hallack

Oh, that's terribly sad. She's such an important part of my growing up. The first novel I remember reading is The Stars are Ours. But you can't say she didn't have an impact, and I'm very happy she got a Grand Master award.


sfmarty - Jun 24, 2004 3:04:23 am PDT #722 of 10001
Who? moi??

She is elderly, but still around. A lot of her stuff is being written in collaboration right now, in fact has been for some time.

High Hallack was going to be a place where writers could go and read other peoples work, or write, or just decompress. I don't know if that part ever happened. I am not a writer and lost touch. If you really want to know more, I could ask.