Wash: Well, I wash my hands of it. It's a hopeless case. I'll read a nice poem at the funeral. Something with imagery. Zoe: You could lock the door and keep the power-hungry maniac at bay. Wash: Oh, no, I'm starting to like this poetry idea now. Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat less attractive now she's all corpsified and gross...

'Shindig'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Nutty - Jun 23, 2004 7:23:53 am PDT #694 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

(I mean, wanting sex in the cab on the way to give birth? As IF.)

Ha ha ha! Really? Every day and in many ways, Heinlein feels more and more like a stereotypical fanfic writer to me. Except he wrote fanfic about the world, instead of a TV show. Which, come to think, is sort of a comforting and entertaining thought.

I've got my fair share of [SF] authors I adored when I was 14 and find problematic now, and that's only 14 years' (and no major American cultural revolutions') difference. Partly, it's just growing up, but partly, it's learning to take any and all reference to alternate political structures with a grain of salt the size of Texas.

Betsy, are you well-read in Andre Norton? Could you recommend a few titles?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 23, 2004 7:30:49 am PDT #695 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Damn! That reminds me that somewhere in my apartment there's an ancient copy of Moon of Three Rings that I never got around to reading. Must add more hours to day, stat.


Allyson - Jun 23, 2004 7:30:53 am PDT #696 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Every day and in many ways, Heinlein feels more and more like a stereotypical fanfic writer to me.

Everything makes sense, now. If we replace Wyoh and Manny with Justin and JC, it all makes perfect sense.

Betsy, it's odd. I feel the same way about Princess Leia. Born in '73, was I. She was the first female asskicker I ever knew, and as an added bonus, was all smoochie with Han Solo. HAN SOLO.


Betsy HP - Jun 23, 2004 7:36:43 am PDT #697 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Nutty, Moon of Three Rings is an excellent choice. I remember liking the Witch World books, but I haven't tried rereading them. I loved all the YAs with "magic" in the title -- Lavender-Green Magic stands out. She's been sharecropping since the mid-1980s, so I'd recommend sticking to her earlier stuff.


tommyrot - Jun 23, 2004 7:39:23 am PDT #698 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Betsy, it's odd. I feel the same way about Princess Leia. Born in '73, was I. She was the first female asskicker I ever knew, and as an added bonus, was all smoochie with Han Solo. HAN SOLO.

Well, for me there was Wonder Woman and the Bionic Woman (on TV) before Leia. But they were kinda' lame. It must have been the utter lack of snark.

I remember I was dissapointed that Leia had to be Jaba's bikini-clad harem girl in Return of the Jedi.


Betsy HP - Jun 23, 2004 7:41:14 am PDT #699 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I remember I was dissapointed that Leia had to be Jaba's bikini-clad harem girl in Return of the Jedi.

Oh, I was pleased. Because she subverted the whole thing and strangled Jabba with his own chain. Go Leia.

The heroines of the two Raiders sequels, though? Pfui. Give me Marian any day.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 23, 2004 7:44:03 am PDT #700 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, I was pleased. Because she subverted the whole thing and strangled Jabba with his own chain. Go Leia.

Also, hot.

t /shallow

wonders who he's kidding - that tag never closes


tommyrot - Jun 23, 2004 7:45:56 am PDT #701 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Give me Marian any day.

I loved how she could drink a guy much larger than her under the table, and then be completely sober five minutes later.


flea - Jun 23, 2004 7:48:39 am PDT #702 of 10001
information libertarian

Marian is okay for the first fifteen minutes of the film. Then she turns into this needing-to-be-rescued, evil-monkey-loving thing that shrieks "Indeeeee" all the time, and really pisses me off.


Allyson - Jun 23, 2004 7:55:01 am PDT #703 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The heroines of the two Raiders sequels, though? Pfui. Give me Marian any day.

Also forced to wear something ridiculous by a villian and then have to kick ass while wearing the ridiculous thing.

Also happened in True Lies.

Manny buys Wyoh a dress that's size too small, right? But she slinks around in happiness, whereas Leia and Marian are both like, "the FUCK?"

Trying to think of another movie where the heroine or female lead is forced to wear something ridiculous and then spend the rest of the flick having to fight in heels and a dress. Le Femme Nikita?