Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


SailAweigh - Jun 22, 2004 4:44:23 pm PDT #678 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I am Arby and Ashtareth. Most of the RAH I read, I read as a teenager. And it was exciting stuff to me, then. To be honest, I haven't reread a single Heinlein book in probably close to 20 years. So, my memory of specifics is dim. But I looked at them as I did a lot of SF, it's fiction, presummably set in a future I'll never see. He could have populated it with talking dolphins and whales on wall street if he wanted. Not sure I would have read it, but he could have done it. The least I can say for him, once I started reading one of his books, I always finished it. I've left a lot of partly read books by the wayside over the years, so for me, the man was doing something right.


Pix - Jun 22, 2004 5:28:19 pm PDT #679 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Just a general FYI to interested Buffistas...west coasters might want to check out the two hour special on CBS called "AFI's 100 years...100 songs". It's a countdown of the most influential songs from films, and it is so worth watching! Granted, I love musicals like a mad thing, so it might not be everyone's cuppa, but...had to recommend! I've had it on in the background while I've been grading, and I've been singing most of the time.

X-post in a couple of threads...


smushedfacelion - Jun 22, 2004 6:01:35 pm PDT #680 of 10001
Just low blood sugar. Ate a Snickers. Thanks for coming.

Not a Heinlein fan - I read "Stranger in a Strange Land" when I was a kid, tried a couple of his other books and didn't finish them. Didn't like Asimov or Clarke either. I tend to prefer sci-fi written by women: Anne McCaffrey, Elisabeth Moon, Margaret Weis. Less of the dry science / big idea part, more of the character-driven stuff.

Big thank you to whoever recommended "Dead Like Me" a while back. Picked up the DVD set, and I'm loving it. I can definitely feel a DNA link to Wonderfalls when I watch it. $62 well spent. Is there going to be a second season?


Cranberry - Jun 22, 2004 6:12:26 pm PDT #681 of 10001
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

Second season starts July 25, I believe.

I bought the DVDs too, after seeing just one episode. I love them, although the episodes could have been even better if some of Bryan's really good ideas hadn't been tossed out.


victor infante - Jun 22, 2004 7:25:07 pm PDT #682 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Watched, uhm, most of safety canary. The CD was screwed up, but we lost the very end.

Uhm, what happens right after Jaye tells he bird lady that she's been using the birds to avoid human contact?


Cranberry - Jun 22, 2004 7:30:20 pm PDT #683 of 10001
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

I'm replacing my whitefonted spoiler with a link to the script, which explains things better than I did anyway.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2004 7:33:50 pm PDT #684 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ahem. Spoilers.


Cranberry - Jun 22, 2004 7:37:52 pm PDT #685 of 10001
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

Sorry, ita. Is there anywhere besides the Wonderfalls spoilers thread where people can talk about the episodes they've seen? That thread spoils all the episodes, and some people don't want to know what happens in later ones.


victor infante - Jun 22, 2004 7:39:15 pm PDT #686 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

My bad. I should have just asked for that to be backchannelled.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2004 7:41:57 pm PDT #687 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unfortunately no -- there's no real middle ground that doesn't involve e-mail.