You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 8:18:09 am PDT #6480 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

as opposed the the what's-behind-this-door-iness of the ending

Although, damn, for that kind of ending, once the lights go out and you go to the night-vision POV shot - hella effective. People were shrieking and gasping in the audience.


Kristen - May 10, 2005 8:20:10 am PDT #6481 of 10001

Also, I'm unsure what I'd do different with the promos, I think they're pretty spot on, actually.

I do too. I don't think the promos make it look like a second-rate anything. I think they give people a good general idea of what the show is. Very Seven-SotL-insert other creepy horror/thriller movie title here.

I mean, does it show all the various cool aspects of the show? Of course not. It's a 30 second spot. (And last night's seemed shorter. Maybe it was a :15.) It's a teaser promotional campaign designed to get a broad audience tuning in.

It's really hard to market "intense and rich" to a broad audience in :30.

Actually, isn't that Kristen's job?

No, I think you took that title from me somewhere around 2003.


Jon B. - May 10, 2005 9:10:27 am PDT #6482 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It's really hard to market "intense and rich" to a broad audience in :30.

I never said it wasn't. Promos, in general, suck.


libkitty - May 10, 2005 9:17:39 am PDT #6483 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

There is definitely a shorter one (the :15?) running around. I got very little feel for the show when I saw that one, but found the longer one a little more helpful. Still, I agree that it is very difficult to come up with a good promo, especially for more complex or nuanced shows.


Allyson - May 10, 2005 9:22:14 am PDT #6484 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I never said it wasn't. Promos, in general, suck.

What would your suggestion be? What would make you go, "Holy ass, I must watch this show."?


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 9:25:31 am PDT #6485 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Depends on the sort of show. If it's a show that works with characterisation and buildup ... I'd just go for the pretty, and a bit of danger. And by pretty I don't so much mean people as I do cinematography.

Humour, action, and SFX are much easier to showcase.


joe boucher - May 10, 2005 9:32:36 am PDT #6486 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I saw the promo, but -- and I doubt I'm the only one to whom this applies -- I'm so used to flipping the channel or doing something else as soon as a show goes to commercial that even when I do stick around the ads rarely penetrate the fog. The Inside promo was half over before I realized it was something I wanted to see. Unless the ads pummel me into submission by being shown every friggin' break (like House during the World Series) or have something that grabs my attention (like Katherine Heigl disrobing in every Grey's Anatomy spot, which of course means I miss everything else in the ad) I tend not to notice them.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 10:11:23 am PDT #6487 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What would your suggestion be? What would make you go, "Holy ass, I must watch this show."?

I've always liked the "profile the characters" gambit. Not necessarily all the characters in one go, but one ad skectching one character (maybe with a little key dialog), the next sketching another, and so on.

I don't know if that would work for the mass audience, though. Plus, I may just want Adam and Katie to get some showcase ads.


sumi - May 10, 2005 10:18:27 am PDT #6488 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, really -- the teasers just tease. I bet there are promos coming up that will have more info.

I think that the only reason I've been catching them is that I tape 24 and look for them when I am ffing through the ads.


Gris - May 10, 2005 10:40:02 am PDT #6489 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I'm glad they're promoting it regularly, but i sure wish they'd just GIVE US A DATE.