Saffron: You won't tell anyone about me breaking down? Mal: I won't. Saffron: Then I won't tell anyone how easily I got your gun out of your holster. Mal: I'll take that as a kindness.

'Trash'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Rick - Jun 18, 2004 12:58:36 pm PDT #590 of 10001

Nutty, I loved all of Heinlein when I was sixteen, so much so that I can't read him objectively now.

Consuela alluded to this too, and I think it's important. Upthread Nutty mentioned Ayn Rand. When I read her books at 14 I thought they were wonderful. Big bold ideas that were not corrupted by the tiresome world around me! By the time I got to college I could see the cruel naiveté of those ideas, but even now when I think of those books there is small residue of adolescent exuberance clinging to them. I might feel the same way about Moon if I had read it before I knew anything about people or their lives.


Tal - Jun 18, 2004 1:09:23 pm PDT #591 of 10001

"When I read her books at 14 I thought they were wonderful. Big bold ideas" this is so true iremember having the exact same thoughts at that age mostly hymn i loved it so much and now i can see how shovinist this book really is.


JenP - Jun 18, 2004 1:28:34 pm PDT #592 of 10001

I tried Moon, but I just couldn't make myself finish. I kept being annoyed by it. So, I stopped. I feel confident in saying that I wouldn't have liked it.

Totally agree that some books read at 12/14 or so wouldn't hold up so well if read again now. But I love the ones that do (duh).


libkitty - Jun 18, 2004 1:47:15 pm PDT #593 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I didn't mean is, as in, like is, but rather -is-.

Bummer. I was really hoping for the puppets. Plus, nice crossover with Angel.


libkitty - Jun 18, 2004 1:51:34 pm PDT #594 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I perhaps mis-wrote. I should have referred to Moon disgust rather than Heinlein disgust. I remember really enjoying Have Space Suit, Will Travel when I was in sixth grade. I'm not sure if it would stand up now. Some of the issues might not have come into a book where the main characters are kids. But they might. It's been a while.


Allyson - Jun 18, 2004 1:51:39 pm PDT #595 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey! We should totally do this. At Tim's house, of course.

I think the theatre is scheduled for completion in January, 2028.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2004 1:52:45 pm PDT #596 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We could throw him a "welcome back to the rest of your house" party.


Allyson - Jun 18, 2004 1:59:15 pm PDT #597 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Will you make some of your "chocolate" cake?


libkitty - Jun 18, 2004 1:59:57 pm PDT #598 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I want to live in LA and visit Tim's house!

Ok. I don't really want to live in LA, just to visit Tim's house when I visit there. And this is not at all intended to actually make an attempt to invite myself, or to imply anything bad about anyone who knows Tim personally and can visit. That's great. After all, I know people that probably wouldn't invite you over because they don't know you, although they probably would if they knew you, because I'm sure you're all wonderful people. It's just every now and then I get the LA envy and the people who know people envy and....

Never mind.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2004 2:02:17 pm PDT #599 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Will you make some of your "chocolate" cake?

You know it, girlfriend!