You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 09, 2005 12:14:09 pm PST #4708 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Send her your still-beating heart.

Too late, she already ripped it out with the Wonderfalls cancellation last year.


Betsy HP - Feb 09, 2005 12:18:24 pm PST #4709 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Send her your still-beating heart.

Ever since Sept. 11, I'm only allowed to mail dead hearts.


joe boucher - Feb 09, 2005 12:20:50 pm PST #4710 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Disagree.

How will putting it on opposite two of the biggest hits on television benefit the show? I'm not trying to be a smartass nor one of the naysayers putting out bad vibes and raising Allyson's blood pressure to dangerous levels when I say that the bus that ran over Wonderfalls had a C.S.I. plate on the front and an Apprentice one on the back. Say what you will about the "Friday Slot of Death," but it was the Thursday smackdown that got the show yanked after one week. Better a cult following on Friday than a sacrificial lamb on Thursday. And if "The Inside" ends up on Thursday I really really really really hope I'm as wrong about this as I was about the election.


Allyson - Feb 09, 2005 12:23:16 pm PST #4711 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

And if "The Inside" ends up on Thursday I really really really really hope I'm as wrong about this as I was about the election.

I was right about the election. Will explain in a few, need to get some things done. But my theory is both Good and Sound.


Barry Woodward - Feb 09, 2005 12:31:59 pm PST #4712 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

Why would you even want one?
I have the original pilots for Buffy and Wonderfalls and I wouldn't mind seeing The Inside 1.0, at least once, in order to compare it against Tim's new and improved version.


Kristen - Feb 09, 2005 12:41:38 pm PST #4713 of 10001

No matter what, the show is going to be up against something. Personally, I don't know that The OC is the best lead-in for this series. On the other hand, there aren't that many options. Short of extending FOX's programming another hour.

And let's be realistic. They're having enough trouble with two hours a night. I don't want to think about what would happen if they had to fill three hours a night.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 09, 2005 12:43:08 pm PST #4714 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I can think of suggestions for what they could fill at least a couple hours a week with...


Polter-Cow - Feb 09, 2005 1:52:43 pm PST #4715 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I love how in "Caged Bird" everything spirals out of control in a perfectly choreographed fashion. Jaye isn't misinterpreting the muses; they are deliberately leading her step-by-step through the situation. It's the kind of thing that makes me all giddy because convenient coincidences are usually irritating contrivances, but here, they are the very fabric of the show.

Why is this show gone? WHY IS THIS SHOW GONE?!


JoeCrow - Feb 09, 2005 6:08:26 pm PST #4716 of 10001
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

I'd love to see a grid all laid out and completely redo their schedule in a way that makes sense (to me).

I'm good with leaving this up to Allyson. How do we get her hired to do this?

My suggestion involves a combination of heavily armed thuggery, over-the-top violence and surrealist comedy. On the other hand, that describes my solution to most problems.

It's more applicable than you think, really.


Allyson - Feb 09, 2005 7:27:45 pm PST #4717 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

How will putting it on opposite two of the biggest hits on television benefit the show?

Because the show is cooler than either of those shows, and FOX needs to put something in that slot. By your estimation, nothing would survive there. People say the same thing about Fridays.

The show needs to go on at 9, it's too scary for 8pm.

CSI has little competition where it is for what it is, which means it's getting ratings both for being fairly decent and for not having much in the way to draw anyone's attention elsewhere.

Point Pleasant is terrible. It's anti-entertainment.

There's what? 3 CSIs available? And the one set in Vegas is in syndication, which means you really can miss it if something cooler is around the corner and catch it later, over and over and over again.

You'd have to discount how good The Inside is to just brush it aside as unable to take a chunk of CSI's audience.

It's darker, tighter, and unlike CSI, has a dark X-Filian sense of humor. It's also sexier and tastier than CSI.

I always resort to food comparisons, and CSI has the sort of salty reliability of a bowl of chicken soup. It's fulfilling and familiar, but given the choice between that and a rich slab of prime rib...

It's still familiar, a staple, but it's to be savored in a different way, and stays with you longer.

It has the same procedural elements as CSI, which is attractive to audiences who love those interesting problem/twist/reveal/solve stories found in L&O, House, all those CSIs...but it has the inner life present in an NYPD Blue. There's something about the inner life that attracts loyalty and makes for a must-see program.

The problem isn't that it's up against CSI or Apprentice, the problem is that FOX hasn't started marketing the show. The pilot has terrifying, creepy, deep waters perfect for a sexy promo. It's a mistake to not trot out teasers, big time. That's the worry, wasting the enormous potential present in this show, which has every shot at putting FOX back in the game.