Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Lilty Cash - Feb 07, 2005 6:21:32 pm PST #4664 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

After all of them, I'd put Barrel Bear and Totem Mole at the bottom of my list, while they are still some of the best teevee out there, just because something has to be at the bottom of the list. I think that, for me, Totem Mole was too much of a departure from the arc when I was in a frenzy over it. Maybe the storyline needed an ep to cool out, but I wasn't in the mood for a stand-aloneish ep that close to the end. It was kind of 'The Girl in Question' for me that way. I've only watched it once thus far, so that's all the commentary it'll get from me for the time being .

Barrel Bear, I was kind of all over "Meh" about, but it still had some great stuff. I loved Jaye's asking Eric why the hell he was helping Mahandra steal the barrel, and his straight out "Don't ask me. I really don't know what I'm doing" reply.

Also, Tim killed a Golden Girl. That's ballsy. Or nature. Whichever.


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2005 6:27:20 pm PST #4665 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See, Barrel Bear is much more A Girl In Question for me. Totem Mole had a clear purpose to achieve -- putting Jaye's fears of and aversion to the tchotchkes to rest. And it did. I just don't love the "how."


Invisible Green - Feb 07, 2005 6:31:06 pm PST #4666 of 10001

I don't get why people didn't like "Safety Canary" either. I thought it was brilliant. That's my second favorite episode.

I agree that "Barrel Bear" and "Totem Mole" are the worst episodes. They didn't completely suck, but they really weren't that great either. I didn't particularly care for "Wound-Up Penguin" or "Wax Lion" either, though those episodes did have some brilliant scenes.


Allyson - Feb 07, 2005 6:33:24 pm PST #4667 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I hated Safety Canary.


Lee - Feb 07, 2005 6:38:58 pm PST #4668 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Allyson, I've been pimping the Lost party. When is the deadline for people to sign up?


Lilty Cash - Feb 07, 2005 6:39:19 pm PST #4669 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I can see "Barrel Bear" being more "The Girl in Question" in that it's really more of a stand alone ep, and I don't have a problem with stand alones in shows with big arcs- it can't be all 'plot plot plot' all the time. TGiQ just jumped to my mind because of Totem Mole's placement in the season- a bit of a slowdown when you know the end is coming, and there's a lot still to get wrapped up.

You are right, ita, that Totem Mole served the purpose of showing Jaye the value of the voices. I guess I just wonder why all of the life saving and people reuniting in the previous eps didn't take care of that. I thought that by the end of Cocktail Bunny, she could have been on her way to accepting them. I mean, Dr. Ron did.

But, like I said, I need a rewatch of a lot still.


Allyson - Feb 07, 2005 6:49:16 pm PST #4670 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Til two weeks before the party, Lee, unless it sells out which is doubtful. I expect about 150 registrations total, and we have space for 300.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 07, 2005 6:52:21 pm PST #4671 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I still liked "Barrel Bear" and "Safety Canary," though not as much as some of the others. I'm happy to report that although I was pretty meh about "Karma Chameleon" when it aired, I've apparently forgotten whatever it was that specifically put me off it, and it didn't have the same effect on rewatch. "Wax Lion," "Pink Flamingos" and "Cocktail Bunny" are my favorites so far.

I'm going to watch "Caged Bird" tomorrow night and bring things to a close, which probably made me more than usually aware of the local bookstore having a recent re-issue of I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings out on display. It's a sign! Though I'm disappointed that Maya Angelou didn't talk to me from the book cover.


Lee - Feb 07, 2005 7:34:35 pm PST #4672 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Til two weeks before the party, Lee

Thanks.


Alibelle - Feb 07, 2005 7:53:41 pm PST #4673 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Well, I had a problem with several things in "Totem Mole," but it was the complete about face that Littlefoot went through. I just didn't believe that she would change that completely, near death/death experience or not. I was able to ignore the tribal inaccuracies, mostly because it seemed like a lot of them were contrived for outsiders, to bring in the tourists. Also, the grandmother was quite chatty, wasn't she? It was just a weak episode, in my opinion. And there were many things about it that bugged. But I loved the guy who owned the store. He was awesome.