And you're sure this isn't just some fanboy thing? 'Cause I've fought more than a couple pimply, overweight vamps that called themselves Lestat.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Rick - Jun 08, 2004 5:40:37 pm PDT #451 of 10001

Out of Minearverse solidarity, I have been listening to Moon is a Harsh Mistress on tape over the last couple of weeks. The basic framework, moon colony develops its own culture and wants to break away, certainly offers plenty to work with, but let's hope that Tim doesn't borrow any character development or dialog from the book, because it is terrible. These people are neither believable nor interesting.

I'm almost done with the book now, and I'm convinced that the big surprise at the end is going to be that it is 'science fiction,' written about human beings by an alien species that has had only brief encounters with humans, so they had to make a bunch of stuff up that doesn't seem much like humans at all. Either that, or the book was written by an adolescent male who was surreptitiously reading Tom Swift novels during his Western Civ class and got the two topics confused.


Nutty - Jun 08, 2004 6:47:13 pm PDT #452 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Ha! Rick wins the prize for expressing his disdain so eloquently. I am told Allyson similarly hated MIAHM, and I'm only sorry I missed examples of her fulminating rage. I, I was the reader with a fatal case of political ennui. Oh please, Bobby, not the joys of market capitalism again! You know how that always messes up the topcoat on my nail polish.

I would have been able to laugh off the political crap if the novel itself had had any redeeming narrative features. But it didn't.

One sort of wants to lock Heinlein and Ayn Rand into a squash court, armed with nothing but silly string and matches, and see who kills whom.

[edited to prove I can spell]


Tamara - Jun 08, 2004 7:05:32 pm PDT #453 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I'm with Rick and Nutty. Sorry, Tim.


The Partyman - Jun 08, 2004 7:44:18 pm PDT #454 of 10001
[insert something funny here]

One sort of wants to lock Heinlein and Ayn Rand into a squash court, armed with nothing but silly string and matches, and see who kills whom.

I like this idea. Though had never really thought of silly string in terms of its usefullness as a deadly weapon. Kinda cool.


libkitty - Jun 09, 2004 11:36:40 am PDT #455 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

let's hope that Tim doesn't borrow any character development or dialog from the book, because it is terrible. These people are neither believable nor interesting.

This is what I was trying to get across, only not as well as Rick, nor as creatively as Nutty with the silly string. Thanks!


Frankenbuddha - Jun 10, 2004 3:57:36 am PDT #456 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Since I'll never get caught up in Natter in time to wish it there, here's a heaping pile of interview-ma for Allyson!!! Good Luck!


erikaj - Jun 10, 2004 11:00:33 am PDT #457 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

"Three Men and Adena"...although I was a heretic and said "Out of Gas" is as good as "Three Men..." But it converted me from FF-dislike.


Allyson - Jun 10, 2004 11:27:30 am PDT #458 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I am told Allyson similarly hated MIAHM, and I'm only sorry I missed examples of her fulminating rage.

I've never quite been able to articulate my Moon rage. There's the part where I temper it because it was afterall a different time, and so I try and think of Wyoh as Uhura as the telephone operator in the miniskirt and go go boots. She was hot, but she was still the receptionist.

But Wyoh was more of a silly giggly junior high student/walking phone sex commercial, and Uhura did have some dignity.

I think that's what I wish most for Tim's characters in the movie, a bit of dignity.


Lincoln - Jun 12, 2004 1:17:00 pm PDT #459 of 10001

t delurks

Pardon me if this is posted elsewhere, but I thought it on topic. I just received the newest Entertainment Weekly magazine, and they have a blurb at the bottom of page 20, about the screening of the "unaired" Wonderfalls episodes at the Knitting Factory in L.A. on June 18th and July 23rd. For those lucky few who are going, remember that the rest of us will be sitting at home eating comfort food and wishing you were dead because of our insane jealousy.

t /delurks


Yorky - Jun 12, 2004 1:27:20 pm PDT #460 of 10001
Shun-sheng duh gao-wahn Batman

Has there been anymore news about DVDs recently, or are we still in the "likely, but they need to sort out cheaper music - keep making noise" phase?

Just wonderin'