Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Love Steinbeck. Hate Catch 22. Love THHGTTG. Love Wuthering Heights, but calling it a romance is a terrible terrible idea - the whole point of the novel, to me, is the horribleness of the characters. And the beautiful gothicness of it. Jane Eyre is closer to a romance if you want a Bronte romance, but we're still not talking Jane Austen.
Tim should adapt all of these books I like. That way, I'm on topic.
I couldn't love Catch-22 more. Same goes for Jane Eyre and 1984. Wuthering Heights made me want to gouge my eyes out.
My secret shame? I've never read a Heinlen in my entire life.
I love Catch-22. My son (17) just started reading it. I think he'll like it.
My secret shame? I've never read a Heinlen in my entire life.
There's no shame in that. Neither have I.
I recently read Wuthering Heights and didn't see what all the fuss was about. I liked the narrative structure, though.
Jane Eyre is closer to a romance if you want a Bronte romance, but we're still not talking Jane Austen.
Funnily enough, I took a class on Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte, because I think they're awesome. Unfortunately, it was a hideously boring class, and I spent a lot of time in it putting my Kings and Queens of England playing cards in chronological order. But Charlotte is a different Bronte, and I enjoy her aesthetic more than Emily's, despite many of the similarities between the sisters.
I wouldn't put it past Tim to have one of his characters in possession of a crazy wife in the attic, though.
Um, Alibelle, speaking as someone who likes Wuthering Heights, it ain't sweet. That's like something the narrator of the book would say, and it's clear the narrator is a twit of the highest order. The book is Romantic, as in written during the Romantic period, but I wouldn't call it a romance myself. Unless you're into sadistic creeps, ghosts, and vaguely incestuous pairings. Which, you know, probably works for some people.
Um, Alibelle, speaking as someone who likes Wuthering Heights, it ain't sweet. That's like something the narrator of the book would say, and it's clear the narrator is a twit of the highest order. The book is Romantic, as in written during the Romantic period, but I wouldn't call it a romance myself. Unless you're into sadistic creeps, ghosts, and vaguely incestuous pairings. Which, you know, probably works for some people.
I know it isn't sweet. And yet, nauseatingly, my entire English class in HS would disagree with you, and that creepiness factor is something I just can't divorce from the book. That, and the fact that my teacher kept referring to it as romantic, and she did not mean simply "of the Romantic period," which to be fair she did mention also. However, since she would also mention the word romance in conjunction with describing Heathcliff and Catherine's "epic and great love affair," I don't think she was only referring to the period. I mean, if I had gone in expecting what it is, and the twistedness of it, and have been allowed to analyze it in that way, I might be a bit more fond of it. But I didn't, and I wasn't. And I find I can't forgive the book because of it. But that's me. And I totally stand by your enjoyment of it, especially since you are specifically not referring to it as "sweet" which is how I heard it described most often. That was what I just could not get, or wrap my mind around, at all.
Unless you're into sadistic creeps, ghosts, and vaguely incestuous pairings. Which, you know, probably works for some people.
Hey, there's a REASON I like S4 AtS best of all...
Hey, there's a REASON I like S4 AtS best of all...
*grinning*
Heh. I have nothing to add.