Numfar! Do the dance of joy.

Elder ,'Power Play'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Vortex - Jan 28, 2005 6:00:27 am PST #4166 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I loved Catch-22 . That and Up the Down Staircase were 2 of my favorites. They just fit so well into my cynicism-stemming-from-idealism way of viewing the world.

I have tried, several times, to read Catch-22. I just can't get into it. Maybe if I take it on a trip where I have nothing else to read.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 28, 2005 6:26:19 am PST #4167 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm trying to get more details about the webcast -- they're planning it at the last minute, as usual. Word is Tracie Thoms and Katie Finneran will probably be there. I'm not sure about the others; I know they've been invited, but they're kind of scattered all over the place.

Has Tyron Leitso vanished off the face of the globe? I haven't heard a murmur about what he's doing since early last year.


Barry Woodward - Jan 28, 2005 8:11:05 am PST #4168 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

Tyron Leitso is set to appear in House Of The Dead II, the sequel to Uwe Boll's masterpiece, as an uber-zombie.


Barry Woodward - Jan 28, 2005 8:12:04 am PST #4169 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

...just kidding...

:p


Daisy Jane - Jan 28, 2005 8:17:37 am PST #4170 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I appreciate that people don't have the same reading tastes and what strikes me might not them. But, really when I see "I don't like Catch-22" or "THGTTG did nothing for me" the words make no sense to me. Which is funny, because I hate hate hate Steinbeck, and I imagine someone will look at that and go "whuh!?!"

I wonder what makes that so. Is it that Steinbeck's level of detail that drives me batty because I just want him to "GET ON WITH THE STORY ALREADY!!!" adds to the story in profound ways for other people? The way Catch-22 wanders back and forth, peeling back the layers of the characters and the absurdity of their situation works for me, but it could just as easily irritate other readers, and I wonder what makes that the case. Does it depend on our personalities or what we're used to reading or what?


Polter-Cow - Jan 28, 2005 8:23:13 am PST #4171 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The way Catch-22 wanders back and forth, peeling back the layers of the characters and the absurdity of their situation works for me

The whole exchange with the chaplain and his liver disease, or something like that? Cracked me the hell up.

And then people start dying and you're like, wait, I thought this book was funny.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 28, 2005 9:06:22 am PST #4172 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Tyron Leitso is set to appear in House Of The Dead II, the sequel to Uwe Boll's masterpiece, as an uber-zombie.

You laugh, but the combo of H.P. Lovecraft/Stephen Dorff fandom will force me to see Boll's latest "masterpiece" Alone in the Dark sometime in the next couple of weeks.

What happened to Stephen Dorff? He used to make really interesting, good indie films like Entropy and S.F.W and he was awesome as Stuart Sutcliffe in Backbeat. Now he's appearing in a bunch of craptastic horror movies like Fear Dot Com.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 28, 2005 9:13:31 am PST #4173 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What happened to Stephen Dorff? He used to make really interesting, good indie films like Entropy and S.F.W and he was awesome as Stuart Sutcliffe in Backbeat. Now he's appearing in a bunch of craptastic horror movies like Fear Dot Com.

People kept calling Craig Scheffer by mistake?

No, that's not right, since he isn't working either.

Josh Brolin? Nah, too busy getting in fights with Diane Lane.


Alibelle - Jan 28, 2005 9:40:50 am PST #4174 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

I wonder what makes that so. Is it that Steinbeck's level of detail that drives me batty because I just want him to "GET ON WITH THE STORY ALREADY!!!" adds to the story in profound ways for other people? The way Catch-22 wanders back and forth, peeling back the layers of the characters and the absurdity of their situation works for me, but it could just as easily irritate other readers, and I wonder what makes that the case. Does it depend on our personalities or what we're used to reading or what?

And, see? I agree with you 100% about Steinbeck. And yet, Catch-22 didn't work for me. I am curious about why that is. Probably since I was usually the person who didn't like something, for some reason or another, when I was in high school, and these books were changing the lives of my classmates. Maybe my problem is that no book has ever changed my life. I love books. I adore them, and they can make me cry hysterically, or crack up for days, at just the thought of a funny line, or they can interest me, and I'll think about something that they propose, and yet? Not a single one has ever touched me so deeply that I've felt changed by it. And I was always a little weirded out by people who would say something like, "oh, you have to read Atlas Shrugged. It will change your life," because I usually just ended up thinking that those people's grasp of reality, and life, was rather fragile.

Perhaps I'm just crazy set in my ways, despite not being 95, or whatever.

ETA: The most horrible book I've ever been recommended is most likely Wuthering Heights, however. That is not a romance. Anyone who says differently has some really messed up idea about romance, and should look into getting some therapy. It has horrible characters, doing horrible things to each other, and I can't stand any of them. And it creeps me out that people are constantly shocked at my opinion on the book, because they thought it was "sweet."


Daisy Jane - Jan 28, 2005 9:55:17 am PST #4175 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Oh I don't know, I think I'm a little averse to any "It will change your life" statements. And yet, I can see the ways in which certain art has had an effect on me. I just think if I had a life changing experience everytime I read a good book I'd be exhausted with the enlightenment.