My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Betsy HP - Jan 25, 2005 9:01:15 am PST #4038 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Please do not make me bleed, Allyson.


Allyson - Jan 25, 2005 9:06:54 am PST #4039 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Of course not! Unless you defend the grampa squick. And then I'm just gonna have to give you a good talkin' to. But no blood, bruising, or even a noogie.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 25, 2005 9:56:23 am PST #4040 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, my god, that's the little British kid from Galactica 1980.

...dizzy...worlds colliding in odd ways...

You and me both, Dana! I followed that link out of fond remembrance of the ski lodge episode of Frasier and ended up yelling "DR. ZEE!!!" and clutching my head.


Strix - Jan 25, 2005 3:16:58 pm PST #4041 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I may be talking outta my ass on TMisHM (I haven't read it in a couple of years) but I know all the Future series polyamo marriages usually has some kind of bloodline dynamic...like Lazarus/Maureen/Lapis Lazuli & Lorelei and oh, the professor and his daughter named after the Burroughs Mars princess in The Number of the Beast.


arby - Jan 25, 2005 4:45:11 pm PST #4042 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

What Erin said. What I recall is the family/sex thing became more and more prominent as RAH's work progressed.

(And I like his stuff despite that. Not proud of it from a feminist point of view, but I do.)


Strix - Jan 25, 2005 4:46:55 pm PST #4043 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Yes. And I always was uncomfortable with it, but I just thought I wasn't sophisticated enough, as a teenage reader.

Then I grew up and realized, nope, it's just EWWW.

But I still re-read Heinlein, even though I mutter and snarl at certain points.


SailAweigh - Jan 25, 2005 4:47:40 pm PST #4044 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

more prominent as RAH's work progressed

Oh, yeah. Very. Incest is best seems to be the motto of his last few books.


Strix - Jan 25, 2005 4:50:17 pm PST #4045 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I modeled myself on Maureen in TSbtS in my late teens, But then I realized that the thing she sounded most proud of was her "birth canal made of living rubber elastic" and I wasn't so enthralled. But I still like the snarky tones of many of his novels; the preachiness that sneaks in, NSM.


arby - Jan 25, 2005 4:58:06 pm PST #4046 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Well it was titillating because it's so wrong. I'm going to dig up Heinlein's letter to the fans in Expanded Universe and see if I can't quote some of it. I wanted to give him credit because he almost gets it.


Strix - Jan 25, 2005 5:02:07 pm PST #4047 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I'd like to read that!