The Lower East Side...it really sucks!
Angel: Is that what you think you are--a hero? Spike: Saved the world didn't I? Angel: Once. Talk to me after you've done it a couple more times.
'Destiny'
The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 16, 2005 5:46:21 am PST #3980 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The Partyman - Jan 17, 2005 4:06:01 am PST #3981 of 10001
[insert something funny here]
Oh! The internet tree! I forgot about the internet tree!
Seriously, our boy wrote the internet tree?
He did. Also, iirc he tried to tell us it was better than TOGOM.
Somewhere roundabout here, I think: Tim Minear "The Minearverse 2: Getting his words out." Apr 20, 2004 6:14:06 pm PDT
I remember it because it felt at the time like the bizzarest thing ever to be arguing the toss with the guy that wrote it. Then I remembered who killed Dolye and felt better.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 17, 2005 5:32:00 am PST #3982 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
While I wouldn't hold the internet tree itself up as a paragon of villain design, I would agree with Tim that "Couplet" worked better than "That Old Gang of Mine" overall.
Topic!Cindy - Jan 17, 2005 5:34:20 am PST #3983 of 10001
What is even happening?
Which one is couplet? Is it the ballet one, or the pancake kisses one, or a completely other one?
§ ita § - Jan 17, 2005 5:46:14 am PST #3984 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Couplet is the internet tree one. Ballet was "Waiting In The Wings" and I think the pancake kisses were "Double Or Nothing."
Topic!Cindy - Jan 17, 2005 6:00:13 am PST #3985 of 10001
What is even happening?
I must have read all the stuff about the trees before sufficient coffee consumption, because I never made the connection to that and Couplet, and odds are it was stated plainly. I will not go back and look, because I feel dumb enough, already.
JenP - Jan 17, 2005 11:28:47 am PST #3986 of 10001
I swear I remember laughing out loud at least twice during the internet tree episode. At Angel acting out his jealousy.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 17, 2005 1:22:49 pm PST #3987 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Plus, "Just to reiterate, not the princess!"
Allyson - Jan 17, 2005 3:23:26 pm PST #3988 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
The Futon Critic has a fact sheet on The Inside, which has more info than I would have given, but I'm stingy. AND BETTER AT DESCRIBING IT THAN FOX.
I don't know how factual the fact sheet is, since I think Adam's character's name was changed to Danny Love.
Kristen - Jan 17, 2005 3:36:38 pm PST #3989 of 10001
It was indeed changed. I seem to recall there was a clearance issue with Coulter.
ETA: Also, I think there was a copy and paste from the old fact sheet and someone forgot to do a search and replace on "Elizabeth."