Hell, I don't know. If I had wanted schooling, I'da gone to school.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


libkitty - Dec 01, 2004 11:52:41 am PST #3194 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

She was actually going to be exec producing TC, if I recall, and she said at a conference that she'd read the TWoP recaps to see what kinds of things needed to be changed.

So she hasn't been involved with it from the beginning? That would make much more sense.

And re: that undiscussable episode mentioned above: I don't see how someone with vision and hearing could get "good" when compared to other eps, much less "brilliant." Clearly, this writer is worth ignoring, except for a quick scan for cool words.


DavidS - Dec 01, 2004 11:55:35 am PST #3195 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I still like the Italian episode, though I didn't think it was brilliant.


Betsy HP - Dec 01, 2004 11:56:57 am PST #3196 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

It kicked the mythology in the teeth.

[Edit: "Fool For Love" took the mythology and turned it into a Möbius strip, and it worked. The mythology was deeper and richer and more true than before. "The Girl In Question" just said "Nyaah nyaah!"]


brenda m - Dec 01, 2004 11:57:47 am PST #3197 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It felt like it was kicking me in the teeth.


Stephanie - Dec 01, 2004 11:58:47 am PST #3198 of 10001
Trust my rage

I liked TGIQ, but agree with Betsy on the mythology thing. But I still liked it.


DavidS - Dec 01, 2004 11:59:05 am PST #3199 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It kicked the mythology in the teeth.

So some people say. I didn't take it that way. I saw it as an entirely warped view showing how WRONG Angel and Spike's views of Buffy were. Which I agree with - Angel was stuck on Teen!Buffy, and Spike knew Dark!Buffy.


libkitty - Dec 01, 2004 12:00:36 pm PST #3200 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I didn't mean to argue that you were blind and deaf, Hec. The book would have been hard, were that the case, although I suppose not impossible.

I have been so irritable lately, that "I'm sorry" seems to be a mantra for me. But if I did offend, I'm sorry.


DXMachina - Dec 01, 2004 12:01:49 pm PST #3201 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

howling "Piiiiiiillllottt" to an unforgiving wind.

Especially with Moya being on the far side of a wormhole and all.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 01, 2004 12:07:23 pm PST #3202 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

he briefly returned to “Angel” to direct its brilliant Italy-set antepenultimate episode, “The Girl In Question,” but really hasn’t been heard from since.

Having seen the episode, I don't regard his keeping quiet for a while as a big mystery.


P.M. Marc - Dec 01, 2004 12:11:44 pm PST #3203 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So some people say. I didn't take it that way.

That's 'cause you're all wrong-headed and stuff.

Other than two talented writers saying goodbye to their toys and having fun doing it, I get nothin' from that episode of any real value. It's placement in the season was late and unpleasing in terms of the arc, and the message you're getting had already been pretty well delivered in earlier episodes without the use of handy anvils. (Well, okay, there were some anvils in Soul Purpose. But still. Fewer than in TGIQ.)