Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.

'Lineage'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Betsy HP - Sep 29, 2004 12:22:34 pm PDT #2368 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Well, for instance, midichlorians are inborn, but the Jedi are a celibate order. No wonder there are so few of them.


Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 12:35:46 pm PDT #2369 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 12:36:03 pm PDT #2370 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

"Well, for instance, midichlorians are inborn, but the Jedi are a celibate order. No wonder there are so few of them."

Yes, midichlorians can be passed on through the generations but that's not the only way obviously. Regular parents can have kids that are strong in the Force as well, and when that occurs the Jedi take them at a young age and train them. It's like in the real world, two highly intelligent parents can give birth to a highly intelligent kid but two parents of average intelligence can also give birth to a highly intelligent kid. Also, I'd like to point out, I don't think we as the audience are meant to agree with how the Jedi operate. Their overconfidence and tradition proved to be their downfall. I think a key difference between the prequels and originals is family. The Jedi want their followers to sever all ties to the world because they believe that makes them stronger but what George Lucas will show in Episode III is that policy simply doesn't work. Family and friends is what helped Luke succeed where Anakin failed.


Betsy HP - Sep 29, 2004 12:40:13 pm PDT #2371 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Regular parents can have kids that are strong in the Force as well, and when that occurs the Jedi take them and train them.

Right. So they're systematically removing kids with midicholirans from the breeding population.

Imagine if all college graduates were joining the Catholic priesthood.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2004 12:41:33 pm PDT #2372 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

How about Tim?

I read Herc's suggestion of either Tim or Jane.

I felt immediately protective of both and put an Anti-Lucas voodoo perimeter around their homes.


tommyrot - Sep 29, 2004 12:45:54 pm PDT #2373 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So what about Phantom Menace and Clones contradicts the original trilogy?

I mean, there's some dumb shit like how Obi Wan supposedly squirreled away Luke to Tatoine (and then hid there himself) because Tatoine was so far away from civilized space. But then it turns out that Vader grew up on Tatoine, and in fact knows Luke's adoptive parents. And you'd think that when Vader ran into C3-PO at Lando's place, he'd at least go, "Hey threepio, how's it going?" considering that be built the fucker.

So there's stuff that now makes little sense... anything else? What is directly contradicted by Phantom Menace and Clones?


Betsy HP - Sep 29, 2004 12:50:24 pm PDT #2374 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Amidala is Queen, but it's an elective office?

What kind of nutso planet elects a teenager to wield supreme executive power? And why would you use the title and costume of inherited nobility for an elective office?


Betsy HP - Sep 29, 2004 12:52:06 pm PDT #2375 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I mean, there are precisely three kinds of elected Queen/King I'm aware of:

Prom
One-time plebiscites choosing the new hereditary ruler (Norway, Greece)
The Summer King, the one who gets plowed into the fields every year.

I'm voting for #3.


alienprayer - Sep 29, 2004 12:53:31 pm PDT #2376 of 10001
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -Bierce

The election takes the form of a beauty pageant, with the winner being the smallest girl who can hold her head highest in the most elaborate headress.


Barry Woodward - Sep 29, 2004 12:53:46 pm PDT #2377 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

"And you'd think that when Vader ran into C3-PO at Lando's place, he'd at least go, "Hey threepio, how's it going?" considering that be built the fucker."

It's interesting you should bring that up, I actually think one of Vader's actions in Empire could be looked at in a different way in light of his C-3PO connection. When Chewie goes berzerk throwing Stormtroopers around Boba Fett aimes his gun at him and Vader stops him. Why? Maybe because C-3PO was attached to Chewie's back. Plus, before that Chewie was allowed to bring a broken C-3PO into his cell in order to get him working again. And if you don't buy that then you could argue C-3PO and Vader never really come face to face because at the time 3PO was broke.