See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 30, 2004 10:22:07 am PDT #1834 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't recall anything of exactly that sort happening in this community (at least not since I joined in 2001), but I've had it happen with an online "friend" whose [alleged] brother supposedly died. After a long lapse in contact he seemed to forget that he'd told me that and started referring to the brother in present tense again.


Betsy HP - Aug 30, 2004 11:05:27 am PDT #1835 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Did anybody else read Matt's posting, shiver, and say "We're due?"

I mean, none of you actually know, first-hand knowledge, that I was hospitalized in Feb. The only people who can prove it are me, the hubster, and the medical bills. (I was. See above re: medical bills.)


Polter-Cow - Aug 30, 2004 11:10:43 am PDT #1836 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Did anybody else read Matt's posting, shiver, and say "We're due?"

See, I find this community far more personal, intimate, and yet vibrant than others I've seen. I think it fosters an inherent trust, and a respect of that trust, within its members that disallows the possibility. In addition, it seems like a large percentage know or have met at least one other member, which dilutes the online-only nature of a community in which a Munchausen by Internet situation would arise.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 30, 2004 11:12:33 am PDT #1837 of 10001
What is even happening?

When I was telling my mother about Nilly and erika's trips, she wanted to know how we knew we weren't being taken, when we engage in group gifts. I said that in these particular cases, there was no way to be taken, as they were just love-based gifts, we were giving, and partly selfish at that, so that we could see our friends.


Maria - Aug 30, 2004 11:13:25 am PDT #1838 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Did anybody else read Matt's posting, shiver, and say "We're due?"

I don't know if it will be as effective here. I can't see some random poster coming in off of the information superhighway, and managing to elicit a significant response. Many of us are cynical and don't take everything at face value. We've met each other, socialized with each other, and Random Poster has no track record whatsoever.

On the other hand, if we are talking about a known quantity that happens to be a fan-freakin'-tastic liar with a gut-wrenching sob story, then we're in deep doodoo. There is a significant investment in this case.

ETA: Or what Sunil said, and more eloquently than I am capable of at this moment.


libkitty - Aug 30, 2004 11:18:56 am PDT #1839 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Contrariwise, I keep a daily watch on getupgrrl's infertility blog, because she is a heartbreaking combination of funny and wise and angry.

I never would have chosen to read this if it weren't mentioned here, but the blog is hilarious and touching, Betsy HP. Thanks for sharing it!

I wrote a long post on the Munchausen by Internet stuff, dealing with trust on the internet in general, and more specifically on buffistas. Then I stopped to work on some other stuff before coming back to look it over. And I clicked on a link which opened up in THIS window, and lost the whole thing. Maybe I'll get it together to repost. t /rant


Nutty - Aug 30, 2004 12:11:27 pm PDT #1840 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My (admittedly limited) experience with Munchausen by Internet is that there are tell-tales. To pick on Betsy (sorry Betsy):

  • Betsy would become sick, and possibly become aggressively passive about it.
  • If she were really elaborate, Betsy would chronicle a disease in the most detailed fashion possible, including the rarest and direst symptoms, all the while failing to chronicle any real-world effects this disease was having on her attention span, energy, motivation to wash dishes, and other mundane details of life.
  • Betsy would announce in advance that she was going into the hospital.
  • Betsy (or her "family member") would not respond to email queries about what hospital/phone #/times to visit.

I'm sure there are other tell-tales, but the Buffistas luckily are world-travelers and inveterate hospital-visitors. (The first example of which I recall is Gar going to visit David's ex, Gar never having met David or the ex, solely because she was in hospital in a new city and would probably be lonely and freaked. That's the kind of Buffista mitzvah action I love to read about!)

...with apologies to Betsy, her "family member", and sundry.


Betsy HP - Aug 30, 2004 12:24:23 pm PDT #1841 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm safe on the "family member": the Bay Area Buffistas have met him. And them, for that matter.


Nutty - Aug 30, 2004 12:38:56 pm PDT #1842 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

That's true (so have I!). Still, I feel the need to apologize for referring to any real person with air quotes.

Oh, he's your "husband". Ri-i-i-ight.


Consuela - Aug 30, 2004 12:43:33 pm PDT #1843 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, he's your "husband". Ri-i-i-ight.

Suhnerk.