Giles, help! He's going to scold me!

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


sumi - Aug 20, 2004 2:07:58 am PDT #1742 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Interesting. The only "redbone" usage I've heard is for a type of coonhound.


sumi - Aug 20, 2004 2:09:06 am PDT #1743 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Wait! I posted that and seem to remember a performer (possibly a bluesman) called "Redbone" something or the other. Obviously - a very vague memory.


DXMachina - Aug 20, 2004 2:24:59 am PDT #1744 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Leon Redbone.

And then there is Redbones, a BBQ joint in Somerville. Very tasty food.


juliana - Aug 20, 2004 4:23:14 am PDT #1745 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I'm starting to go into a Carlin-esque headspace, since it's so amazingly difficult to discuss race and skin color. Not here - I think this is a good conversation - but as a general rule.

Where I grew up was mostly white and Alaska Native, so the most common term I heard for bi-racial was 'half-breed'. Which, notsomuch with the humanizing. Then again, there is a lot of racism directed towards the villages up there.


Vortex - Aug 20, 2004 4:50:50 am PDT #1746 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Hey, Kat, do you consider haoli/haole to be a derogatory term?

It was meant to be derogatory, I think. I mean haole equates, in the usage I've been exposed to most often, as touristy, ignorant, not understanding.

I had a suitemate in college who was from Hawaii, white girl with blond hair, who sometimes referred to things/people as haole (i.e. haole rice). It seemed to be more of a culture-based word than a racial one.

I have heard people referred to as Redbone. In fact, my dad's best friend was called "Reds" in high school.


sumi - Aug 20, 2004 5:00:21 am PDT #1747 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

DX -- that's exactly who I was thinking of - - thank you. Is that a stage name?


Jon B. - Aug 20, 2004 5:45:15 am PDT #1748 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Hard to say, Sumi. From allmusic:

While his gravelly baritone and omnipresent fedora, dark glasses and Groucho Marx moustache made him one of the more distinct and recognizable characters in popular music, little is known about the neo-vaudeville crooner Leon Redbone. Throughout his career, he steadfastly refused to divulge any information about his background or personal life; according to legend, Redbone's desire to protect his privacy was so intense that when he was approached by the famed producer John Hammond, the contact number he gave was not his own phone, but that of a Dial-A-Joke service.


DCJensen - Aug 20, 2004 5:48:14 am PDT #1749 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

All Music Guide:

While his gravelly baritone and omnipresent fedora, dark glasses and Groucho Marx moustache made him one of the more distinct and recognizable characters in popular music, little is known about the neo-vaudeville crooner

Leon Redbone. Throughout his career, he steadfastly refused to divulge any information about his background or personal life; according to legend, Redbone's desire to protect his privacy was so intense that when he was approached by the famed producer John Hammond, the contact number he gave was not his own phone, but that of a Dial-A-Joke service.

Because Redbone first emerged as a performer in Toronto during the 1970s, he was believed to be Canadian; his work, a revival of pre-World War II ragtime, jazz and blues sounds, recalled the work of performers ranging from Jelly Roll Morton and Bing Crosby to blackface star Emmett Miller. He made his recording debut in 1976 with On the Track, which featured legendary jazz violinist Joe Venuti as well as singer/songwriter Don McLean; his 1977 follow-up Double Time even reached the U.S. Top 40 charts, largely on the strength of his frequent appearances on television's "Saturday Night Live."

Which I recall vividly. He was such a unique performer.

ETA: X-Posty, but true.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 20, 2004 5:49:54 am PDT #1750 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Is that a stage name?

Well, there was a rumor for years that Leon was really Frank Zappa pulling a secret identity, but that's only because they did kinda look alike. I think Leon's still around, so that SHOULD put those rumors to rest, unless Frank's pulling an Elvis.

Which doesn't answer your question, I realize.


brenda m - Aug 20, 2004 5:52:24 am PDT #1751 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. For some reason I thought (assumed) he was from New Orleans.

His Christmas album is one of the few straightforward holiday albums I can bear to listen to.

And now I'm earwormed.

On Christmas Iiiiiiiii-laaaand...