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The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kat - Aug 19, 2004 11:44:04 am PDT #1715 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

How would you describe someone half Asian, half white?

for me, someone to whom it applies, I go with hapa or bi-racial or mixed.

Or half Asian, half black? Do you need a different word? Why?

Don't need a different word. again, for my world.

They prefer 'other.'

HATE other. HATE it a lot, primarily because it's so... well, yucky. "Oh, you can't conceive of what I am? I am other."

Thank god on the census you can just pick as many races as apply to you.


Invisible Green - Aug 19, 2004 11:44:28 am PDT #1716 of 10001

How would you describe someone half Asian, half white? Or half Asian, half black? Do you need a different word? Why?

I have a friend who's half white, a quarter black, and a quarter asian. She considers herself to be "Caublasian."


Nutty - Aug 19, 2004 11:45:37 am PDT #1717 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

As I recall, the Census Bureau has the damnedest time trying to deal with race/ethnicity. It's important to quantify, because it can change congressional districting and federal funding, and like that, but incredibly hard. The census in 2000 was the first one with "mixed race" as a category, right? And I don't believe it asked you to break it down beyond that. (The Other box was still available.)

Over the years, they've tried all manner of ways to quantify Hispanics/Latinos/people of South and Central American heritage, as a category overlapping with race. If they said only "Hispanic", then people from Spain did check the box, but people from Brazil didn't. At one point in the late 70s, they used the term "South American", until they realized Anglo white people in Alabama were checking that box in all innocent error.

It's an ongoing conundrum.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2004 11:48:50 am PDT #1718 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Problem with the term black is that it's do damned catching, what with the one drop rule. So for many, if you can tell there's black blood -- the person's black. "Mixed" is held by some to be having airs. Except -- why? It's just true, right? But does it apply after four generations of mixing? I may be tri-racial by now. But black, still. Because my parents are black (enough), and theirs are also black (enough).

And then there are black people who won't admit to having any white blood, because the only way it could have gotten into their ancestry is by acts of possession and brutality. And therefore I shouldn't either.


-t - Aug 19, 2004 11:52:01 am PDT #1719 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The 2000 census actually left a blank you could fill in, at least in the form that I got. I remember, b/c I went ahead and listed all the countries anyone in my family tree was from, and DH wrote "Jewish Lithuanian".

That's gotta be hell to try to tabulate, though.

The "South American" thing reminds me of a friend who was collecting data over the telephone that included race. one of the options was "Native American". Almost everyone she talked to picked that one. She was surveying Pittsburgh. She very much doubted the accuracy of her results.


Trudy Booth - Aug 19, 2004 12:44:07 pm PDT #1720 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

How would you describe someone half Asian, half white?

Often? Totally. Freakin. Hot.

I wonder how much of the (grossly offensive, mind you) erroticization of the tragic ~oons came out of the often hottitude of those who are mixed race.


Kalshane - Aug 19, 2004 1:03:23 pm PDT #1721 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Often? Totally. Freakin. Hot.

That would be my Japanese/Irish friend. If I had a nickle for every girl I've heard gush about how hot he is and every woman I've seen do a double-take when he walked by them I'd be set for life.


tiggy - Aug 19, 2004 1:17:56 pm PDT #1722 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

"mixed"

I have a friend who finds that very offensive. she says that you refer to dogs as "mixed". people are "bi-racial". *shrug* once again it comes down to what offends some people doesn't affect others.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2004 1:21:01 pm PDT #1723 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it a mixed-breed thing to her, then?

It was suggested to me once that the word "race" should be replaced with "breed."

Accuracy aside, the idea of telling a bunch of people who'd been bred like livestock that they should start identifying with the word breed.

Good luck not getting beat up.


tiggy - Aug 19, 2004 1:35:38 pm PDT #1724 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not really sure. i would assume so though.