The count of three isn't a plan. It's Sesame Street.

Buffy ,'First Date'


The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Allyson - Aug 18, 2004 9:17:56 pm PDT #1696 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's odd where lines get drawn amongst the familiar.

During a particularly stressful time before an event a few years ago, Maya and I got a little heated at each other.

Maya said, "You're just being a bitch because I married a Black man."

I said, "Sluts like you muddy the race."

And we fell apart laughing at the stupidity of the entire argument.

I don't presume that I could have that exchange with anyone else.

I don't presume that I can touch ita's hair, though I love her and she knows I mean no harm, for example. There's a boundary. Maya says to me, "YOU can go there." Someone else can't. There's the understood.

It's an interesting thing.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 19, 2004 4:16:05 am PDT #1697 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And by a strange coincidence, in today's Boston globe, something semi-related to this discussion.


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2004 4:38:51 am PDT #1698 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I was just going to post that, Frank!


Trudy Booth - Aug 19, 2004 6:18:04 am PDT #1699 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My father still gets the racial slurs, and I get them, from friends and acquaintances who think it's "cute." It's demeaning, yet I'm being uber-sensitive when I ask them to cease and desist.

You are NOT being oversensitive, dammit.

I had a friend in HS, Italian American, one summer he fell in love with doo wop music. Fill in obvious jokes and insert additional slurs here ________. It was just goofy kid shit and bugged no one.

But if it did bug him? It would have sucked. It would have been rotten verging on evil, not kids on the dock playing in the sun and cracking each other up.

Because I wouldn't hurt that kid for the world, no one decent would do that to a friend.


Kalshane - Aug 19, 2004 6:40:02 am PDT #1700 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

As I said in Natter, I was familiar with the word mulatto due to one of my best friends since gradeschool always having referred to himself as such. I was completely unaware they were any racist overtones to it. Especially after hearing the word in popular music ("Smells like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana and a song the name of which I can't remember by Seven Mary Three.) Obviously, now that I am aware, I know not to use it.

It's odd where lines get drawn amongst the familiar.

I have a good friend who is Japanese and Irish. He's fairly short. As I'm tall, broad-shouldered and fair-complexioned he makes a lot of Viking and nordic jokes at my expense which I'll occaisionally retort by calling him a ninja leprechaun or some such. I wouldn't dream of saying anything or even thinking along those lines with anyone else, but for us it's just part of our banter. We've been friends for 17 years and it's just one of those things that grew out of it.


Polter-Cow - Aug 19, 2004 6:43:29 am PDT #1701 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

a song the name of which I can't remember by Seven Mary Three.)

Google says "Lame."


Kalshane - Aug 19, 2004 6:46:34 am PDT #1702 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

That sounds right.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2004 7:18:56 am PDT #1703 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

My father still gets the racial slurs, and I get them, from friends and acquaintances who think it's "cute."

They aren't your friends. Real friends would know your boundaries. You are not being oversensitive when you ask them to stop. I have this problem with the n-word. Some people have attempted to take it back, and use it often. I don't like it, even when said by other black people, and I don't like being referred to by it, even when I _know_ that the person doing it is doing so in a "positive" manner.


Burrell - Aug 19, 2004 8:26:31 am PDT #1704 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't presume that I can touch ita's hair, though I love her and she knows I mean no harm, for example. There's a boundary.

Oh go ahead. The woman was always touching my belly when I was pregnant. Believe me, there's generally a boundary there.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2004 9:37:36 am PDT #1705 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Allyson, you can touch my belly, whether or not I'm preggers.

Leave the hair alone. It's a thing.