I like pancakes 'cause they're stackable. Ooo, and waffles 'cause you can put things in the little holes if you wanted to.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


D. McBag - May 20, 2004 5:19:24 am PDT #931 of 3531
It\'s a good day to die.

Hey, ho, it's the devil here. Back from the dead, and is that not so appropriate for this time and place in the Jossverse? No worries. Won't be posting again and dont' want to cause any trouble at all, but I hope that some small sliver of kindness can be granted to allow me a brief bit of communal grief.

I'm just so very, very sad, peeps. And very, very confused that it's a television show that is making me feel that way. Life is tough, but it's even tougher when a tv show can bring you to your knees in sadness.

A couple o' things and then I'll whisk away.

I did think (through my tears, that is) that it was entirely approriate that Wesley died because he overestimated his abilities. So he came in, and so he goes out. A better, stronger, deeper man, but still tragically tied to the man he was when first we met.

And if anyone must die, it must, of course, be Wes. If not him, who? And if not now, when? A sacrifice for atonement and the greater good. Were it anyone else, it would have been cheap and cheating. The power just would not have been there for me. Only by killing Wes does the sacrifice truly feel like a sacrifice.

Jeez, I'm going to cry again.

In the end, they all die. Or they all live. Or any combo in between. In the end, life just goes on, day after day, step after step, and there aren't any cameras around to record it all for posterity. That's the message I take. Not certain that was the message intended, but it's what hit me. Anything less, any type of wrap-it-all-up and the world will be peachy type of angle . . .well, it would have made me hurl.

Life just continues, and the dude simply abides. But, alas, I will not. Just needed to share for a moment, and now I slip back under the rock from which I crawled.


Vortex - May 20, 2004 5:21:35 am PDT #932 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It was really great they found a necrotempered cafe.

I didn't even notice that! I've been spoiled by a season of sunlight in W&H.


billytea - May 20, 2004 5:25:26 am PDT #933 of 3531
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And if anyone must die, it must, of course, be Wes. If not him, who?

I agree. Though personally, I'd have liked it if he'd anticipated the wizard's reaction and rigged things in such a way that said wizard killing him would be the trigger for the wizard's own death. A deliberate act thingy.


Connie Neil - May 20, 2004 5:27:33 am PDT #934 of 3531
brillig

A deliberate act thingy.

Some sort of major attack fueled by his own death. yeah.


Laura C - May 20, 2004 5:31:55 am PDT #935 of 3531

It was really great they found a necrotempered cafe.

Oh, there's probably a whole line of demon-oriented travel guides that point out necrotempered cafes, dinner clubs with special menus, nightclubs with antiviolence spells, the works. No doubt W&H orders a gazillion custom-bound copies and sends them out to their clients at the holidays and has extras floating around the office. And, um, Connor would naturally be drawn to such a place now that he's reintegrating his memories.

So you're saying he was coming down from street level, where the sun lives?

Rats.


Lilty Cash - May 20, 2004 5:33:59 am PDT #936 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I was rather surprised when he told Illyria "Since I don't actually plan on dying today....". And completely in love with the way that he said it. But I sort of figured that Wes DID plan on dying, and I don't think he'd bother lying to Illyria.

Edited to continue my thought: I think that this may make me love Wesley still more than I already did- I believe that he did not plan on dying- even though there are no more perfect days, and nothing left to live for, he has every intention of going on and continuing to fight the fight.


Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2004 5:41:16 am PDT #937 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I agree. Though personally, I'd have liked it if he'd anticipated the qizard's reaction and rigged things in such a way that said wizard killing him would be the trigger for the wizard's own death. A deliberate act thingy.

There was a consensus among the Worcester crowd (I think DX said it first, but I could be memfaulting and, if so, my apologies) that it would have been just a touch cooler if there had been one second or two of a reaction where the wizard realized "Oh, wait, that's not a mortal..." before the head punch. Still satisfying, and they did a great job with the transition to Illyria, I thought.

Also, I think Wes was a big lying liar-type liar guy when he told Illyria he didn't plan on dying.

eta and, hee, an x-post, natch!


Steph L. - May 20, 2004 5:41:42 am PDT #938 of 3531
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Angel was coming down a set of stairs when he went in

So you're saying he was coming down from street level, where the sun lives?

Maybe he took Connor's advice and had a suit made out of necrotempered glass....

My Mom e-mailed me this morning and said "I decided I'm mad at Lorne for killing our hottie Lindsey. Because he was a hottie and shouldn't die."

Simple woman, my Mom.


Kalshane - May 20, 2004 5:43:46 am PDT #939 of 3531
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

My minor nitpick is why did "Chow Yun Wes" not have his guns on him and instead try to use that little knife? Even if he'd planned on killing the guy with magic, he'd have brought them along as a security blanket. (Not saying the guns would have neccessarily worked, but it seemed odd that he chose a knife as his backup weapon.)


Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2004 5:44:28 am PDT #940 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Simple woman, my Mom.

Tell her Lorne was doing the ultimate Queer Eye makeover on Lindsey, which he earned due to his haircut.