I have this picture in my head of The Alley of Doom filled with scores of corpses - orcs (or whatever. I don't get good enough reception to have seen what-all showed up to fight), a dragon, and the broken bodies of Gunn, Illyria, and Spike.

Just popping in to say GUH! and note that the previously breakdown (the last) is now up in Mejiaville. I'm working on the WB "THANK YOU" (fuck them), but I appear to have caught a cold and need to get some sleep. I'll try to post it tomorrow.

As for how the episode ended, in theory I would be against how they did it (I like closure and don't like "everybody dies" as an ending in general), but tonight's didn't bother me at all. I loved the episode.

butting in without catching up to say:

that. was. awesome.

"Personally, I want to fight a dragon".

sniff

heading back to catch up.

Broken. Show broke me.

I despise the Butch and Sundance ending of them roaring off into hopeless battle.

It's not hopeless if they win.

I may have yelled "Have sex with me now!" "Oh, no you're not!" and most definitely "But that's not fair!!!!"

I don't have much of a rational response. I hate that Wesley died and that Gunn is ten minutes away from buying the farm and Angel's still standing. I hate that he may have had Lindsey shot.

I don't hate the episode, let me be clear.

I was really peacable about it ending, until 8:56. Then I got antsy, and poured some Ollalawhateverberry wine.

I was pretty okay, mellow, laughing, until the poetry slam, and I realised how sincerely they were going for their last days (or not), and how bleak this was going to be.

I shall repeat "they have a cave troll" to myself to see if it makes me feel better.

the finale could have been a two-hour thing... but it was a great send off... and the "Your Friends at The WB" at the end... uh, my ass WB.

the ending was great.. I want more but then it just made me hate The WB a little more... actually a lot more.. I'll rewatch... now.

I liked how it ended. The little bit of uncertainty.

Also on a practical note - plenty of room to let anyone they want survive if they need to for a future series or TV movie - with only minor asspulls.

Having seen it I'm absolutely certain Lorne killed Lindsey on Angel's orders. The bitterness , the "one last thing", Angel knowing Lindsey was not coming back.

Lorne was always on Angels side because of friendship - not because he was deeply committed to good in the "good vs. evil " thing. But Lindsey was a friend too - obviously not as good a one as Angel, but a friend nonetheless. Yeah killing a friend for the cause would make anyone bitter - but especially Lorne. So totally against everything he is - and yet in character for him to do it under the circumstances. And hate himself, and hate Angel for it afterwords.

I've wept before for fictional characters. Wesley Windham-Price is the only one for whom I wept silently, hands over mouth to hold my heart in, knees pulled up to my chest....

I wish I could have been there with you , milady.

{{{{{{{{{{{{Andi}}}}}}}}}}}}}

t goes back to holding her hand in IM

Lindsay's death just slays me (and btw we've been given no reason to think that was Lorne's personal choice). How he was devastated to be reduced to a second string death-- he'd pinned everything on Angel, good or bad, and he was betrayed by him (but who wasn't?). I just loved that it was his last word. It sure as hell wasn't whatsherface.

It's not hopeless if they win.

Indeed, indeed.