I don't like vampires. I'm gonna take a stand and say they're not good.

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - May 19, 2004 9:34:23 am PDT #518 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

One thing, though. I often find Joss's episodes to be a bit unsatisfying-- as if he was helicoptered in as a special guest writer. He doesn't quite have the characters down; some of his concerns are not the same as the arcs. For that reason, I expect to find this episode a little bit like that. On the other hand, perhaps because *this is it*, he will exceed all expectation. I certainly hope he's had some kind of end fo Angel in mind ever since the beginning-- if not of Buffy, than since the Shanshu prophecy.

Bell's co-writing, which should help.


Narrator - May 19, 2004 9:35:35 am PDT #519 of 3531
The evil is this way?

Wes will die. *sniff* MY Scruffy!Wes will die. Mostly because joss loves to torment me so.


Dana - May 19, 2004 9:37:30 am PDT #520 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Another favorite moment: Nutty, talking about Dead End, calling Lindsey's truck "The Hickmobile of Sexually Confused Jealousy." I laughed so hard, I almost choked.


Vortex - May 19, 2004 9:37:32 am PDT #521 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

IWRY. I cried like a baby. And of course, there's the naked DB moment *sigh*


Lilty Cash - May 19, 2004 9:39:22 am PDT #522 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Wes will die. *sniff* MY Scruffy!Wes will die. Mostly because joss loves to torment me so.

But....that's more than salt. That's salt in the wound, an indian burn, a paddle to the ass, and getting pushed face down in the mud. Is this how I'm rewarded for 8 years of loyal fandom!?!?!?! BAH!!!

Sorry....as the hour grows closer I get erratic.


Morgana - May 19, 2004 9:39:25 am PDT #523 of 3531
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Hi everyone –

This is just a driveby delurking to thank you all for the years of enjoyment I’ve received from your many (many, many) posts. I’ve been following the threads since the early incarnations on TableTalk, although I’ve rarely been able to contribute here due to the sheer volume of posts (I’m usually reading them a day or two after they’ve been written). Your accumulated wit, whimsy, analysis and arguments (in the best sense of the word) have helped me to love and appreciate Buffy and Angel even more.

Thank you. And of course thanks to Joss, Tim, and all the assorted evil geniuses at ME. I can't wait to see what they come up with next. (It's a given that I'll be first in line here for the Firefly movie. But we need these people creating for our TVs on a weekly basis, dammit!)


Nilly - May 19, 2004 9:41:26 am PDT #524 of 3531
Swouncing

IWRY

They only recently started showing AtS on an Israeli cables channel, every Tuesday night. The episode that was broadcasted yesterday was IWRY.

[Edited to wave welcome to Morgana]


Fred Pete - May 19, 2004 9:45:49 am PDT #525 of 3531
Ann, that's a ferret.

Favorite moments? Learning that Gunn sold his soul -- for a truck. OK, a rather special truck, but a truck.

Lindsey, with fake hand, looking at the guitar in his closet.

The first appearance of Wesley Wyndham-Price, Rogue Demon Hunter.

"Rm w/a Vu" -- The villain makes the mistake of calling Cordy a bitch.


Jon B. - May 19, 2004 9:50:03 am PDT #526 of 3531
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Another favorite moment: Anya G.'s recap of Billy. Best. Recap. Ever.

Angel: "Billy"

This recap was brought to you by Gender Absolutists R Us and The Fight Club For Wommyn: Wanna Feel Our Rage? (TM)

Billy: I'm pretty evil, you know.
Lilah: He's pretty evil, you know.
Gavin Park: I'm not so shabby myself, you know.
Lilah: You can stop beating me now.
Gavin Park: I know.

Cordy: A woman just got hideously murdered.
Wesley: Well, well, well. Another night of American television.

Cordy: Hey, it's that evil guy we freed. Guiltfest?
Angel: Eh.
Cordy: Since when?

Angel: Billy is evil. You should ditch him.
Lilah: No. Too powerful. They even name chairs after him at Ikea.

Billy: Yeah. I'm a tad evil.
Policeman: You are a tad arrested.
Policewoman: Dude, the traffic.
Policeman: Women can't drive.
Policewoman: I have issues with the simplistic way in which you are gendering this discourse.
Policeman: You used "gender" as a verb. I have no choice but to kill you.

Cordy: What is Billy's problem?
Lilah: Primordial mysogyny.
Cordy: A primordial condition which can only exist in a social context? Bwahahaha! Oh, you are serious.
Lilah: Men are beasts, see?
Cordy: But Lilah, the effort to identify the enemy as singular in form is a reverse-discourse that uncritically mimics the strategy of the oppressor instead of offering a different set of terms.
Lilah: Men love death... Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it.
Cordy: Xanax, Ms. Dworkin?

Wesley: Give me back my broken night. My mirrored room, my secret life.
Fred: Wuh?
Wesley: It's lonely here. There is no one left to torture.
Fred: Uhm...
Wesley: Give me back the Berlin wall. Give me Stalin and St. Paul. Then lie beside me, baby, and that's an order.
Fred: Lemme guess. You've seen the future and it's murder?
Wesley: Sometimes I remind myself of the entire Manson Family.
Fred: The mojo only works on manly people. Are you sure you're homicidal?
Wesley: Ask my hatchet.

Fred: I knew I should have taken that Wendo class.
Gunn: Gonna smack you up, bitch.
Fred: There will be no Dr. Dreing on these premises.
Gunn: Ow, my head.
Wesley: Heeeeere's Johnny!
Hole In The Floor: Sucker!

Billy: Dumb chicks.
Cordy: Dumb chicks with weapons.
Angel: So does it work on trannies?
Billy: This question is outside of the theoretical framework of this episode.
Angel: Let's fight like men always do.
Billy: Is your urge to kill rising?
Angel: Shit. No. Should I be having a gender identity crisis?
Lilah: I've thought out my thesis to its logical conclusion. Billy, you are so damn dead.
Cordy: Alright! Go, Ms. Solanas.

Fred: Are you over it?
Wesley: Fuck, no.
Fred: Would you like some ice cream and an issue of Cosmopolitan?

Next week on the WB: Angel has to decide whether the problematic of reproduction is central to the sexing of the vampiric body. Darla investigates the relationship between the signifier and the signified in the popular expression "barefoot and pregnant". Monique Wittig arm-wrestles with Ruth Shalit.

t edit quoted in its entirety because it was in an archived thread and hard to find.


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2004 9:51:41 am PDT #527 of 3531
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, you guys are almost making me teary.

Pretty much all my faves have been mentioned, but I'll add the windows blowing out of the Hyperion in "Untouched."

Oh, and is it just me, or did no one specifically mention Angel kicking Russell out the window in "City of..."? Cause I think that's where the show had me.

"Can you fly?"