Oh, hell yes. That girl has the least credible fight scenes I've ever seen.

I've seen worse. Like Allysa Milano on that witch show.

I've seen worse. Like Allysa Milano on that witch show.

I've probably seen worse, but it wasn't Alyssa.

Like Allysa Milano on that witch show.

Is her character supposed to be a good fighter? (I've only seen a few minutes of the show, but I thought it was more about boobs and throwing flashes of light around than actual hand-to-hand fighting.)

They do fight, Jessica, but she's mostly a kicker in a very broad she-fu style. High kicks, wire work, backflips.

I love, Love, LOVE the "apocalypse by inches" theory. It makes so much sense (and sort of reflects Angel being the more adult of the two shows conceptually).

I thank you for the compliment - except is it really a theory? I'm pretty sure they said it outright.

They do fight, Jessica, but she's mostly a kicker in a very broad she-fu style.

Ah, gotcha. My layman's instincts tell me that that sort of thing is easier to make look good onscreen than punching. You don't need any weight behind a fake punch, but with a kick, just the weight of your leg should give you enough momentum to make it look halfway decent.

They do fight, Jessica, but she's mostly a kicker in a very broad she-fu style. High kicks, wire work, backflips.

Though back when the show first started, AM's character was the only one who had any idea how to fight and even she stuck to the basics. Somewhere along the way they all suddenly learned how to fight Matrix-style. Not sure what the deal is these days as I stopped watching 1 or 2 seasons ago.

I thank you for the compliment - except is it really a theory? I'm pretty sure they said it outright.

What they said was this, and I quote Strega because we had a similar reaction to the way said "theory" was presented:

"The thousand-year war of good versus evil is well underway." Oh, I see. Angel adds that evil hasn't mentioned it to anyone, "which is probably why they're winning." Maybe the MoG can win if they just ignore it, then. What if they gave an apocalypse and nobody came? Spicule says, "We're apparently on the wrong side. Or the right side, if you like winning." Gunn still isn't convinced, but Angel insists, "Next time you go out there, take a good look around. It's true." Gunn promptly gets up and exits. Ten minutes later, he rushes back in, sits down, and says, "Holy cow, it's totally apocalyptic out there!" Okay, that didn't happen. I don't know. On the one hand, I like the idea of the apocalypse being something subtle instead of another round of hellmouths and world-ending disasters. On the other hand, I don't think "subtle" means "completely undetectable."

Another thing, Jessica, is that just about no one does convincing kicks, even the stuntpeople. They may do beautiful and difficult kicks, but nothing you'd ever use in a fight. So folk aren't used to watching for anything vaguely realistic.

Punches, OTOH, are much more accessible, and you can't really distract with theatrics.

You poll most non-martial artists (and even including them, perhaps) that have been in impromptu fights, and most of them won't have kicked, and even fewer kicked above the waist, much less the head. It's just not sensible unless you're really good. And even then ...

Not sure what the deal is these days as I stopped watching 1 or 2 seasons ago.

I think it's mostly AM's character with the wi-fu now, and the rest just use the good old potion asspull.