You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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beathen - Mar 02, 2005 9:47:40 am PST #3423 of 3531
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

As for Elizabeth Rohm it's not so much the eyes that bother me but her voice/mannerisms. Mat said that in the commentaries she "spoke in a dull monotone" but I think she was like that in the show as well. The one episode that she was better than normal in was Sense & Sensibility because her character could break out of the "I'm a cop and therefore have no life" tone in her voice.


Kathy A - Mar 02, 2005 9:49:13 am PST #3424 of 3531
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Paul Newman's eyes have more of a blue tint to them--the eyes I think we're talking about here are so pale that they're almost white.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 02, 2005 9:52:59 am PST #3425 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Paul Newman's eyes have more of a blue tint to them--the eyes I think we're talking about here are so pale that they're almost white.

Is that what they call "gray" eyes, or are there irises out there that are more distinctly gray? The type I'm thinking of definitely have a blue tinge, but it's very pale.


-t - Mar 02, 2005 9:55:54 am PST #3426 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I've seen gray eyes that look gray like storm clouds, not ice blue.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 02, 2005 9:56:51 am PST #3427 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

While the Kate character wasn't hugely expressive, she did have variances in tone - there was grim cynical on the job Kate, and sharply angry blame Angel for everything Kate, and occasionally tentatively happy Kate. I don't think the Bodysnatcher pod got to her until after she'd left the show.


beathen - Mar 02, 2005 10:01:16 am PST #3428 of 3531
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

I'm thinking the character of Kate was written to be more "even-keeled" so to speak, which is fine, but vocally it could have varied a bit more than what was done.

I'm not trying to say that I hate the character or the actress, only that the character and actress don't do much for me personally, in the show.


Kalshane - Mar 02, 2005 10:09:39 am PST #3429 of 3531
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I've already watched through season 5 a little over 4 times!

There's nothing I can say about this that you haven't already said yourself.

Put me in the not hating Kate club. She wasn't my favorite character, but I don't have any animosity towards her.


sumi - Mar 02, 2005 10:16:24 am PST #3430 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, I thought I hated Kate, until ER went to L&O. I REALLY hated Serena Sutherland.

Kate was SOOOO much better.


Vortex - Mar 02, 2005 10:18:50 am PST #3431 of 3531
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, I thought I hated Kate, until ER went to L&O. I REALLY hated Serena Sutherland.

yes, this.

Kate was SOOOO much better.

if better means "sucked less, but that doesn't mean much", then yes.


Nutty - Mar 03, 2005 11:19:35 am PST #3432 of 3531
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I thought Kate as a character was summed up well with that line (memfault which episode): "This job is making me crazy." Dullish; truthful; not a lot of tone; no expectation of change; and she said it to someone she kind of hated. And, that was fine for Kate. (I never liked her later histrionics.)

I never particularly noticed the laser-blueness of her eyes, because there wasn't often much behind the irises (unlike McDonough, who seems to be built for the permanent slow burn).

I spell judgement with an E and have never been corrected on this front. Of course, on the Boston T system, there is a station called "Boylston St. Theatre District", so clearly the British hold more sway than they think they do.