I got the feeling the only reason Illyria could "tap" into Fred was because there were pieces of her left that shouldn't be there. And those pieces were trapped when the yucky bugs they were battling at the beginning of the show infected Fred. They didn't infect her at the beginning of the show, she infected herself once she knew she was dying. Maybe she figured by being crystallized it would preserve her DNA or something and she could be cloned. Who knows, the wank could take a number of different paths from there. And I would have believed it.
Wesley: We're going to bring Angelus in alive. Connor: No we're not. Gunn: I thought you said capturing him wasn't an option. Wesley: Changed my mind. Connor: Change it back.
'Why We Fight'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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SailAweigh - Dec 11, 2004 6:27:28 am PST #2674 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2004 8:01:25 am PST #2675 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm not sure I buy anything Fred could do in her lab being effective against a Great Old One's predestined efforts at resurrection. Then again, I'm not sure I buy Wesley's department being able to cobble together something that could safely dispel the power of said Great Old One, and I've had almost a year to get used to the idea since actually seeing it air.
I think the way they did it just felt very rushed --- like the writers thought, gee, we have to wrap the show up, and we haven't established this Sooper Sekrit Villain Cabal yet, let's just toss 'em in there anyhow.
The one saving grace for me was that they were all players that Angel & Co. had been introduced to earlier in the season via their work at Wolfram & Hart.
DCJensen - Dec 11, 2004 9:09:29 am PST #2676 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
I'm not sure I buy anything Fred could do in her lab being effective against a Great Old One's predestined efforts at resurrection.
My thought at the time was that she injected herself with the crystal creature venom.
Cass - Dec 11, 2004 1:16:15 pm PST #2677 of 3531
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
It turns out that Buffy S7 and Angel S5, while both final seasons for their respective series, are not the same thing. This dawned on me in the middle of Firefly. The resulting exclamation startled my visitors, to say the least. I am very sorry for causing confusion and extra work.Hee. Right after I checked Costco's site I wondered if maybe it was a last season mix-up because my brain suddenly did the same thing. No worries at all.
I think the way they did it just felt very rushed --- like the writers thought, gee, we have to wrap the show up, and we haven't established this Sooper Sekrit Villain Cabal yet, let's just toss 'em in there anyhow.
The one saving grace for me was that they were all players that Angel & Co. had been introduced to earlier in the season via their work at Wolfram & Hart.It felt very very rushed to me, but then the show was ending... I just did a little mental hand-waving about the whole SSVC being so easily destroyed.
sumi - Dec 11, 2004 3:28:52 pm PST #2678 of 3531
Art Crawl!!!
We are, in fact, getting Season 5 dvds before Region 2 is -- the only time for either Buffy or Angel that this has happened, I think.
Betsy HP - Dec 12, 2004 12:24:39 pm PST #2679 of 3531
If I only had a brain...
Lost leapt on Angel writers as soon as the cancellation was known.
victor infante - Dec 12, 2004 12:27:58 pm PST #2680 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Good to see the Ultimate Drew abuse keeping up"
"It's cool," Abrams says, "that the 'Lost' writers' building is right across the way from the 'Alias' one. I'll be looking for Fury, and Fury will be in Bell's office, talking about an episode of 'Lost' or 'Alias.' I'll go over and be at 'Lost,' and Drew Goddard wrote an episode of 'Lost,' so Drew will be over there -- crying, I think."
"He's a very weepy man," Bell says.
"He's tall and weepy," Abrams says.
"Evidently," Bell says, "it's not easy being tall and handsome. There's a lot of weeping going on."
"I would know," Abrams says, "being as tall as I am and good-looking."
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 12, 2004 1:18:19 pm PST #2681 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I love the idea of Abrams poaching Mutant Enemy for talent as soon as the axe fell. "Hey little boy, would you like a piece of candystorywriting responsibility on an angsty genre-crossing drama airing on network TV? With an obsessed internet-savvy fanbase?"
victor infante - Dec 12, 2004 1:20:21 pm PST #2682 of 3531
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Smart man, that Abrams.
Connie Neil - Dec 12, 2004 2:35:01 pm PST #2683 of 3531
brillig
The lost storyline I mourn most is the robotic Watchers that led to Wes shooting "Dad." Who were they? What were they doing? How is Wes' Dad involved?
Curse you, WB. Curse you.