the show creators' easy friendships with women.
Wait, I thought they were sexist bastards?
I so can't keep track anymore...
You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.
Giles ,'Selfless'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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§ ita § - Aug 15, 2004 9:00:25 pm PDT #2174 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Allyson - Aug 15, 2004 9:03:30 pm PDT #2175 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Wait, I thought they were sexist bastards?
It's a conundrum. Wait. Is that a word?
Beverly - Aug 15, 2004 9:11:55 pm PDT #2176 of 3531
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Not feeling beat up, just wanting to be clear.
I think I forgot to make the point that because Mal respected and (I'm guessing) got along well with his mom, he respects and has an easy rapport with women, especially women who work in non-gender specific jobs. And that he has less easy-going friendly, more wary and/or shippy feelings toward women who are in traditionally feminine roles.
I have the impression that he sees Kaylee and Zoe as who they are. But he sees Inara, and Whassname in HoG as potential sexual partners. I don't think for a minute that he thinks of Zoe or Kaylee *first* as a sexual being, although he knows they're not "guys." And I think that easy acceptance as other-than-sexual is a legacy of his regard for a strong, hardworking in a traditional male's role mother.
But that motivation was never actually on the page, or the screen. More just in my head.
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2004 9:19:27 pm PDT #2177 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And that he has less easy-going friendly, more wary and/or shippy feelings toward women who are in traditionally feminine roles.
This is also making assumptions about what is traditionally feminine at their point in the future. We never ironed out the boy companion thing -- do you get the feeling that it's odd for a woman to be a mechanic or a soldier? I hadn't.
Tal - Aug 15, 2004 9:20:00 pm PDT #2178 of 3531
hi allyson..is nilly awake?
Lee - Aug 15, 2004 9:20:44 pm PDT #2179 of 3531
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Tal, Nilly is with me now, and she is asleep on the couch.
Tal - Aug 15, 2004 9:22:21 pm PDT #2180 of 3531
thanks lee, send her a big hi & that yair is o.k now...
Tal - Aug 15, 2004 9:24:16 pm PDT #2181 of 3531
oh by the way, sweet dreams (not for me..it`s 9:30 a.m here-alas)
Lee - Aug 15, 2004 9:24:59 pm PDT #2182 of 3531
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I will, Tal, and thanks!
Tal - Aug 15, 2004 9:29:19 pm PDT #2183 of 3531
I saw a bit earlier that some of you go to krav maga class..how is that?