Go on. I know I'm in the minority on this one. I'm an Oliver martyr.
Your singular love of both powerful and successful partners and totally screwed up, creepy psychoboys is fascinating. Bob seems to fall into neither of these categories.
Book: I am a Shepherd. Folks like a man of God. Mal: No, they don't. Men of God make everyone feel guilty and judged.
'Safe'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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DavidS - Aug 13, 2004 8:00:25 am PDT #2096 of 3531
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
bon bon - Aug 13, 2004 8:12:08 am PDT #2097 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
You are right. Neither of those types would be any fun to come home to, though.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 13, 2004 8:20:13 am PDT #2098 of 3531
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Cues up "Oliver's Army" by Elvis Costello and the Attractions just for bon bon.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 13, 2004 8:31:26 am PDT #2099 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I hated Oliver all the way through, but I agree that we were supposed to.
Dude wasn't named Oliver unknowingly. They should have made him Seth's cousin to complete the joke.
Narrator - Aug 13, 2004 9:06:12 am PDT #2100 of 3531
The evil is this way?
Sarah Brown(e?). I can't watch GH because of (not so)Nu(anymore)Carly. I understand people like her, but my mind just cries out "THAT'S NOT CARLY!!!"
I've adjusted to NuCarly, but yeah, I missers Sarah Brown.
Is OldNic back?
Yeah. A lot. Also shirtless a lot. Hmmmmmm.
I enjoyed Oliver.
Heathen.
SailAweigh - Aug 13, 2004 1:45:06 pm PDT #2101 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Lauren irritated the fuck out of me. Mainly because I was a big Sydney/Vaughn shipper and she got in the way of my ship. But season 3 cured me of that. It was as bad, if not worse than, the Buffy/Angel angstfest that was season 3.
B/S: "I want you, but I can't have you. If I do, you become evil/an adulterer."
A/V: "You're right. I must repress my love...er evil/adulterous desires."
B/S/A/V: "Woe is us, for if we boink, we must go to hell/the NSA."
Audience: "Enough, already! Boink or die."
Feh. Joss knew he wanted to spin DB off to his own show way early. He didn't have to be in Buffy season 3 at all. They could have left him in hell for the entire season and then brought him back just at the very end. He could have had a little visit from TPTB and told Buffy, "sorry, lover, they need me in LA, I'm gonna be a star." Gone his merry way and it would have been a better way to end the ship than the way they dragged it out forever. I'm all for the clean kill. The ending of season 3 needed the split to be sharper, like Buffy's mom telling her not to come back at the end of season 2. Really bring the pain, have Angel come back from hell, with a mission, it doesn't include Buffy and he can't help her with the current apocalypse. Have it all happen at the same time that graduation is going down. As it was, my impression of Angel leaving was "please go, it's more than time."
And Vaughn did the same thing. Played Sydney for the entire season with, "but you were deeeaaaaad. I can't love you!" Come on! Have a little faith! She's not, she wasn't, you still love her so get over it and dump the rabbit-faced faux Brit before she blows your brains out. I really didn't pay much attention to the last half of the season, it got so annoying. It eclipsed the sister storyline and it shouldn't have. I barely remember the season finale now, only that it had a pretty shocking ending and I'm dying to find out what happens. But, to be honest, I could care less at this point if Syndey and Vaughn get together permanently.
Topic!Cindy - Aug 13, 2004 3:02:37 pm PDT #2102 of 3531
What is even happening?
I love B/A in season 3.
SailAweigh - Aug 13, 2004 3:18:49 pm PDT #2103 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Looks sideways at the poor, misguided loon.
Well, someone had to like them.
Topic!Cindy - Aug 13, 2004 3:22:14 pm PDT #2104 of 3531
What is even happening?
In my defense, I started watching in season 3, so I'm especially fond of it, and the B/A soapiness didn't hurt in keeping me tuning in. It also finally enabled me to come of the Buffy closet to Scott (and turn him, almost immediately).
SailAweigh - Aug 13, 2004 3:41:31 pm PDT #2105 of 3531
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I honestly didn't mind B/A in seasons 1 and 2. It was great metaphor. Unitl season 3. In season 2, the ship was storm-tossed, found anchor on a deserted isle...oh, wait, wrong show. Anyway, season 3 was blah. I felt like I was eating cold week-old leftovers. And no coconut radios to ask for rescue from it.
ETA I do know how to spell, the fingers just don't want to cooperate sometimes.