They're reshowing the early series of "Buffy" in the UK, and I've realised why "Angel" had to end - in the last year or so DB has become far too chubby. In the penultimate ep - Angel and Spike in Rome - where we get a flashback to them being chained to the ceiling, JM wore only shorts while DB was given an undershirt, obviously to hide his flabby chest. Come to think of it, while we used to get a glimpse of Angel's naked torso in almost every other ep, we haven't been allowed to see it for a long time. I suppose a fat vampire is conceivable, but a fat romantic vampire - no!
Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --
'Serenity'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Dai Watkins - Jul 22, 2004 6:33:45 am PDT #2023 of 3531
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 22, 2004 6:37:49 am PDT #2024 of 3531
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I talked to David at a convention in May. If he was still chubby as the final episodes of the show were being shot, I want the info on the weight loss program he used to arrive where I saw him over the space of a couple of months.
Dai Watkins - Jul 22, 2004 6:44:13 am PDT #2025 of 3531
When he was Buffy's platonic boyfriend Angel had dramatically hollow cheeks. As CEO of Wolfram and Hart he was almost jowly.
Jon B. - Jul 22, 2004 6:53:08 am PDT #2026 of 3531
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
This sounds like a guy version of the "Tara is fat" debate. By TV standards, he looked a little big, and he's definitely gained weight since his Buffy debut. But by normal human standards he looks great.
Steph L. - Jul 22, 2004 6:53:20 am PDT #2027 of 3531
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Hmm. In S1 and some of S2 Buffy, I thought DB looked way too thin. He was a wee bit chunky in S3, but he looked great in S5.
Jim - Jul 22, 2004 6:59:08 am PDT #2028 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
But by normal human standards he looks great.
That's the problem. Normal human standards don't apply to vampires . He was so clearly older, and fatter (which is hardly suprising - I'm older and fatter than I was when Buffy began) that I agree it was starting to be a bit jarring
Jim - Jul 22, 2004 7:00:02 am PDT #2029 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Quality trolling, Dai.
Steph L. - Jul 22, 2004 7:04:34 am PDT #2030 of 3531
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Normal human standards don't apply to vampires .
Yeah, the fact that he breathed was really annoying, too. Broke the fourth wall with every exhale.
P.M. Marc - Jul 22, 2004 7:08:02 am PDT #2031 of 3531
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Normal human standards don't apply to vampires . He was so clearly older, and fatter (which is hardly suprising - I'm older and fatter than I was when Buffy began) that I agree it was starting to be a bit jarring
And yet, still less jarring to me than just how much of his age Marsters was showing there at the end. (I appear to have an easier time fanwanking chubby cheeks than I do crow's feet.)
Jim - Jul 22, 2004 7:14:49 am PDT #2032 of 3531
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
how much of his age Marsters was showing there at the end.
Yeah, that too.