You're probably right, micole, but it doesn't bode well for him doing anything other than looking forward to the going out in a blaze of glory thing. I see him emptying the shotgun, the pistols, then pulling out a sword and diving in.
Tara: That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and... are a total dork... Riley: Then how come Xander didn't laugh?
'Selfless'
Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?
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Connie Neil - May 14, 2004 6:31:27 am PDT #198 of 3531
brillig
DCJensen - May 14, 2004 6:38:05 am PDT #199 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.
I don't know how they could have fit in the explanation but I really wanted to know how she went from Cecily the stuck up biatch to Halfrek the nosy vengeance demon.
Considering all the time that BtVS wasted repeating the same info in its final stretch, seems like we could've fit in a little Spike/Halfrek meeting/reflection episode before we killed her off. Might've made her death a lot more meaningful, too
Mala - May 14, 2004 6:46:17 am PDT #200 of 3531
Even though Angel's reasoning for this big fight seems rather idiotic, that last seen on Wednesday was beautiful. Power Play showed again how much all these guys love each other and the idea of them choosing to die together seemed based more on love than on necessity. In a way, I'm all right with that.Yes. I may gripe about plot "problems" that I see, but there was no denying that last scene, especially Wes' love for Angel and willingness to follow him to death. "Faithful servant" now and forever.
As much as I didn't like the troll god hammer and the Summers blood business, The Gift still makes me weepy, because I felt the love.
Katie M - May 14, 2004 6:58:34 am PDT #201 of 3531
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Oh! Need new folder for Katie, too. This is beautiful. Katie, may I please tag this part:
Angel says to me that there can be grace even in darkness; Buffy says to me that that you can get a damn generator and turn the lights on.
Absolutely, Cindy.
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2004 7:01:18 am PDT #202 of 3531
What is even happening?
Thank you, Katie
Lilty Cash - May 14, 2004 7:18:58 am PDT #203 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
I think my Wes love is at an all-time high. And that's saying something.
When I thought it couldn't get any higher, that look before he raised his hand just knocked me over.
Maytree - May 14, 2004 7:49:55 am PDT #204 of 3531
I try to love my neighbor as myself. Unfortunately, I have a lot of self-loathing.
The reason for titling the most recent Spoiler Thread "Show Called Angel" was, I believe, a reaction to the announcement at the end of last year that Spike would become a regular, and severe worries that it would become the Spike Show. It was "Show called Angel! Show not called Spike!"
In retrospect, do people think Spike's addition helped or hurt the final season? Let's leave aside the issue of "the suits wanted Spike so he had to be there or there would be no final season"; I'm talking artistically, not practically.
My answer is a mixed yes/no. I've always been Spike-neutral (just can't see what the big deal is either way) and I disliked the direction the show went in season five in a general sense, but focusing very narrowly on Spike's contributions I have to say that sometimes they were forced and annoying, and sometimes they worked really well. All in all I'd rather have had Connor, but that's just me (and a few others). Also, the forced and annoying was more obvious toward the first half of the season; by the second half Spike seemed a more appropriate part of the ensemble (except for TGIQ, in which the whole danged episode was forced and annoying. Yes, I know some people liked it.)
Katie M - May 14, 2004 7:54:06 am PDT #205 of 3531
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I've actually enjoyed Spike a great deal this year; he's even been a bright spot sometimes in episodes that I wasn't otherwise overwhelmed with.
bon bon - May 14, 2004 8:06:26 am PDT #206 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
He was superfluous. Not in a malignant way, but since his screentime took time away from other characters and storylines (Lorne!), his contribution was ultimately detrimental to the show. Dawn in seasons 6 & 7.
§ ita § - May 14, 2004 8:08:08 am PDT #207 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
since his screentime took time away from other characters and storylines (Lorne!)
But we don't know he did. We know that we might have given his time to Lorne, but Wesley could have gotten it. Or Harmony. Or Nina. Or Eve. Or naked sweaty Lindsey.
It's like the lack of Xander in late Buffy.