The Punisher is mostly just annoying
How so? Once you get past the overexposed 'Look at me, I've got four monthly books of my own and guest spots all over the place and I still don't kill anybody worthwhile' choices the company made with him, there's some good stuff there. I mean, he's not the best candidate for discussion in this thread, true. Every once in a while Frank stops and squints really hard, trying to see where redemtion lies, making sure he's still moving directly away from it at speed. Punisher v. Daredevil is always gold. Vigilante with a shotgun versus vigilante with a law degree.
And yes. Gargoyles was bloody amazing. Only disney product I could stomach until PoTC. Up here, it used to be on right after Freakazoid, who did the Lawn Gnomes parody of Gargoyles. Now that was an hour of television to behold.
Was anyone here into Gargoyles?
I didn't see the show until a couple of years ago. It rocks. Pity the last season was taken over by Disney animators who decided Elise should look like an Ariel clone.
Disney can only blame itself for the crash of Gargoyles. Two great seasons with detailed, well done characters. Then animated by artists who decided it should be more cartoony.
I read Punisher way back in the day when Jim Lee was doing it -- maybe it's better now, but he lacked emotional complexity. Very pretty though. Jim Lee does the best wet hair ever.
He was all the gritty but with none of the appealing psychosis of Bats or animal magnetism of Wolvie.
I figure I can see that. Like I said, his gimmick is pretty thin. He shows up best in crossovers and guest spots with people who's morality is more acceptable, like DD and Spidey. The current series is fun for the amazingly innovative meanness Ennis comes up with on a regular basis, but he decided from the start not to try and go anywhere beyond the superficial. The only real change is how much Punny enjoys his work now.
He's in a mini with Wolverine right now, and when Wolvie's the one explaining why the bad guy doesn't need to die, I look at you funny. Wolverine even kills the good guys (although it's Ultimate Wolvie I'm thinking of, precisely).
Freakazoid!! I loved that cartoon. The theme song was also great.
Also need to clarify that I know Julie from Calamine from being a super-stalker fan who showed up at her solo shows when no one else did, not because I knew her "before she was famous" (although arguably she's not that famous even now). Do I get to keep my cool points?
IIRC mieskie also indicated that whatever the bullshit consensus of the actual posters, it was far outnumbered by the numbers of lurkers who supported him. I had no idea the meme lurker support in email predated us.
Whoa, I never realized that either. And FTR, I always thought that was me (click at your own risk - not a good posting day for many of us, certainly not me.) I'm not sure.
ETA: warning
Wolfram, why did you force me to read that?
Now I hate everyone.
Yeah, those were some good times.
Not.
I should probably remove the link.
Edited previous post.
He's in a mini with Wolverine right now, and when Wolvie's the one explaining why the bad guy doesn't need to die, I look at you funny. Wolverine even kills the good guys (although it's Ultimate Wolvie I'm thinking of, precisely).
And you have that right. The Punsisher reserves the right to ignore you and Bronson up the place as he sees fit. Wovie's pretty cool. Every time he sees Magneto he proves he's got guts.
Freakazoid! Chimpanzee!
