I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


arby - May 22, 2004 10:50:43 pm PDT #1381 of 3531
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Just watched 4 Firefly commentaries in a row, from "Shindig" straight on through "The Message". Mind reeling with the funny overload.

Too tired, must sleep now. But wanted to say thanks to Caterpillar - I can't promise it will be any good, but I'm psyched to have a somewhat original premise for once.

And to post a random thought that occurred to be about the WB's knife-twist at the end - maybe they did it because they knew that many of us aren't going to watch their evil network anymore, and so they took the opportunity of getting one last dig in before we changed the channel for good. So thoughtful of them, really.


Gris - May 23, 2004 2:09:48 am PDT #1382 of 3531
Hey. New board.

Or maybe they did it for the simple reason that most Angel watchers are not Buffista-smart. Or even saveangel.com smart. And they assume that most of the WB viewers of the Angel finale will not view the "Thank you for being with us for the last five years" thing as offensive.

Which, no matter how much I personally am annoyed, is probably true. Can't blame them for doing it, unfortunately.


Topic!Cindy - May 23, 2004 3:46:29 am PDT #1383 of 3531
What is even happening?

And to post a random thought that occurred to be about the WB's knife-twist at the end - maybe they did it because they knew that many of us aren't going to watch their evil network anymore, and so they took the opportunity of getting one last dig in before we changed the channel for good. So thoughtful of them, really.

Or maybe they did it for the simple reason that most Angel watchers are not Buffista-smart. Or even saveangel.com smart. And they assume that most of the WB viewers of the Angel finale will not view the "Thank you for being with us for the last five years" thing as offensive.

I don't think they intended to be offensive. It just rubbed me the wrong way, because we're not friends. We'll never be friends. We'll be in love till it kills us both. We'll fight, we'll shag, we'll hate each other till it makes us quiver, but we'll never be friends. Real love isn't brains, children, it's blood, it's blood screaming inside you to work its will. We may be M.E.'s bitch, but at least we're Buffista enough to admit it.


-t - May 23, 2004 5:00:50 am PDT #1384 of 3531
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Perfect, Cindy. Just perfect.


Micole - May 23, 2004 5:16:48 am PDT #1385 of 3531
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Hee. I was going to say, "What Cindy said," but in fact I'm trying to find out if I can keep my cable Internet and cancel my cable TV. So not so much TV's bitch.

I think the WB was clueless, because there's no percentage in them being deliberately offensive. And I don't think they're the source of all evil for following the money, which is why I never posted on the cancellation earlier. Yeah, it makes me sad, but they gave the show 5 years and enough warning for a wrap-up -- that strikes me as pretty decent, all things considered.

Even the "Thank you" would have hit me less hard if they'd let all the credits play out first.


Topic!Cindy - May 23, 2004 5:22:40 am PDT #1386 of 3531
What is even happening?

Hee. I was going to say, "What Cindy said," but in fact I'm trying to find out if I can keep my cable Internet and cancel my cable TV. So not so much TV's bitch.

I'm not really TV's bitch, either. I think I'll amend that to M.E.'s bitch.

eta, thank you -t.

also...

Even the "Thank you" would have hit me less hard if they'd let all the credits play out first.

Yes. And if it didn't say "your friends." It was just corny, and not really true. I mean, they're not our enemies either, but they're not our friends.


Typo Boy - May 23, 2004 6:02:37 am PDT #1387 of 3531
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

they're not our enemies either.

Well not your enemies perhaps. "We hates them precious, hates them forever...."


Maysa - May 23, 2004 6:39:56 am PDT #1388 of 3531

Or maybe they did it for the simple reason that most Angel watchers are not Buffista-smart. Or even saveangel.com smart. And they assume that most of the WB viewers of the Angel finale will not view the "Thank you for being with us for the last five years" thing as offensive.

Well, also, the WB does this for every show that's ending, regardless if it's going away voluntarily (Dawson's Creek) or not (Felicity, Angel).


Topic!Cindy - May 23, 2004 6:49:10 am PDT #1389 of 3531
What is even happening?

Well not your enemies perhaps. "We hates them precious, hates them forever...."

Oh, I still hates them, yes I do. They're just not my enemies. They're...beneath me.


Sydney Carton - May 23, 2004 7:03:47 am PDT #1390 of 3531
Actually, I've feeling a wee bit peckish...

Good point Maysa.

As much as I have ranted about the cancellations (I was actually more upset about Wonderfalls than Angel), the networks can do what they want. My main criticism (as a CEO) is that they are not taking real risks anymore and are making short-sighted decisions that will undercut the long term value of their properties. This is for a lot of the same reasons people have stated earlier (Reality programming having no legs in syndication, massive ratings variabilities because of chasing fads, etc.).

My hope is that the new multi-season in a season approach will open up more creative scheduling and carve out some space for new genre-based material. Not holding my breath though...