But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Lovesick, my Ass!  

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onecoldcanadian - May 05, 2004 11:33:07 pm PDT #338 of 668

So after all the posts I've read here I had to read the script for myself. My thoughts are a bit jumbled at the moment after just reading the episode, but I have a feeling that I would be able to watch this episode without getting too upset over the misrepresentations. My parents? Who are Haudenosaunee (traditional longhouse people) would have issues with some of the events. The body of Gentlefeather in the wigwam for the most part unattended and be so accessible that Jaye can just walk in and stumble over her would not go over well with them.

As for the DropSquadWhiteyHating!BornAgainEducatedIndian stereotype, that trope does not seem to be played out often in American media. I have no idea why, however it is often played out in Canadian TV. From what I have read, Diana actually did seem to have the makings of a good leader. It just seems like she just needed some direction and new priorities. How was she portrayed in the episode?

Supposedly all the headdress and wardrobe were gleaned from Iroquois tradition.

Since I haven't seen the episode the word "headdress" leads me to believe that it was more POW wow costuming than any traditional Gustoweh.

Some slight nitpicking now. Didn't Mahandra reveal in "Muffin Buffalo" that she was Seneca and not Satsuma?


Number_6 - May 06, 2004 3:55:27 am PDT #339 of 668
Eric: \"Heidi said I shouldn\'t open my mouth to strangers.\" Jaye: \"Ironic...\"

Yes. She said she was 3% Seneca.


Allyson - May 06, 2004 7:22:00 pm PDT #340 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I succumbed.

I saw the face of a million miracles.


§ ita § - May 06, 2004 7:28:44 pm PDT #341 of 668
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh! Meanie!


Allyson - May 06, 2004 7:36:43 pm PDT #342 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Would you have lasted this long?


onecoldcanadian - May 06, 2004 7:52:25 pm PDT #343 of 668

The finale is "Caged Bird" correct? The one with the hostage taking? (At least according to the last spoiler I read).


Kristen - May 06, 2004 8:02:59 pm PDT #344 of 668

You totally suck.


§ ita § - May 06, 2004 8:10:53 pm PDT #345 of 668
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Would you have lasted this long?

We'll never know, will we?


Kat - May 06, 2004 8:18:05 pm PDT #346 of 668
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

oh, Allyson. I'm surprised! you were so resilient. I totally wouldn't have lasted that long.


Cranberry - May 06, 2004 8:31:38 pm PDT #347 of 668
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

I sure as hell wouldn't have lasted that long.

So... am I the only one who wants to know what happens?

(Actually, I'm torn. I sort of want to know, and I've read all the episodes leading up to it... but part of me still wants the ending to be a surprise when I actually see it.)