Well, see, that's the thing. I was always suspicious. Guys who date Heidi Hos deserve their pain. They don't deserve Jayes.
I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—
William ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Lovesick, my Ass!
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Allyson - Apr 30, 2004 10:12:07 am PDT #211 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Allyson - Apr 30, 2004 10:12:44 am PDT #212 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
lori, I'm hungry, let's go get LUNCH.
Astarte - Apr 30, 2004 10:13:00 am PDT #213 of 668
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
So that's what that ringing was.
Huh.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 30, 2004 10:20:37 am PDT #214 of 668
What is even happening?
Well, see, that's the thing. I was always suspicious. Guys who date Heidi Hos deserve their pain. They don't deserve Jayes.
Don't you think some of them pay with their pain, improve, and eventually can come to deserve Jayes?
(some is not necessarily Eric, but not not Eric, either. A generic some, not an eric some)
Allyson - Apr 30, 2004 10:23:41 am PDT #215 of 668
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Don't you think some of them pay with their pain, improve, and eventually can come to deserve Jayes?
Not without an intervention by Dr. Phill.
Door. Mat. And also a tendency to be overly forgiving, or in Eric's case, to see something that isn't really there.
lori - Apr 30, 2004 10:31:05 am PDT #216 of 668
lori, I'm hungry, let's go get LUNCH.
Damn - can't! Stoopie work and downlinks.
§ ita § - Apr 30, 2004 11:15:05 am PDT #217 of 668
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think Eric gave himself the rebound talk, and then looked at Jaye's strangeness again, and fell over.
Somewhere in there he forgot to consider the breadth and depth of the strangeness, to not understand that him being broken drives him to need, and her brokenness drives her away from it.
I felt he was punishing both himself (his right) and her (MEAN) by the re-marriage.
lori - Apr 30, 2004 11:15:44 am PDT #218 of 668
Stoopie meaniehead.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 30, 2004 1:33:09 pm PDT #219 of 668
What is even happening?
I felt he was punishing both himself (his right) and her (MEAN) by the re-marriage.
From someone who's only read the script, I think this is how I see it. I guess I forgive him, because of his brokeness though, and because I think when you make a vow, it probably means more than "until the first time you cross me." I don't mean by that, that I think people need to stay in untenable situations. But I have some admiration for the wrong party trying again.
But still.
Cranberry - Apr 30, 2004 2:15:15 pm PDT #220 of 668
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with
meaning? What does that mean?
Cocktail Bunny (is this aka Brass Monkey?)
Yeah, Bryan said it was originally titled "Brass Monkey," but he renamed it to "Cocktail Bunny," so that's now the official title. It symbolizes Heidi because of the drug cocktail thing.